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Don Parrish · September 12th, 2003, 05:57 PM

Has anyone used the 4 set DVD training series by Douglas Spotted Eagle. I recently purchased some photoshop 7 training DVD's (from some off brand company) They were simply video of documents, I just want to make sure it is not like reading a book, prefferably has him actually talking. ( I know, Ed and Chris, I saw the article) I have tech manuals galore right now (I have 4 200+ page maunuals I am reading). I need something so I can be lazy and sit back and take it in, not read through documents.

Peter Wright · September 12th, 2003, 07:07 PM

dse's DVD is either him on camera talking, or live screenshots of what he is demonstrating.

Recommended, as is Gary Kleiner's set.

Edward Troxel · September 12th, 2003, 08:42 PM

They are NOT "simply video of documents". In both cases (DSE & Gary) it is like sitting in a room with them and listening and watching them talk about Vegas. Think of it as a personalized instruction class.

Don Parrish · September 12th, 2003, 08:47 PM

Thanks Edward and Peter, that was the description (word) I was looking for (but my brain is fried), Classroom style.

Michael Wisniewski · September 13th, 2003, 01:49 AM

Don,

Which Photoshop 7 DVDs did you get? Just wanna know, so I know to avoid them.

I'm thinking about ordering the Total Training DVDs for Photoshop and After Effects, because I was "totally" :-)impressed by the video tutorials on Adobe's site.

Don Parrish · September 13th, 2003, 05:49 AM

They were actually CD's (my mistake sorry), The company called Keyko, Personal Training photoshop 7, The most detailed and interactive training solution (yeh right). There wasn't even any audio, they just had some documents and an occaisonal arrow that would point to something. It has been a full time job to make sure money hits the right products. So much stuff, especially software, is disapointing.

On DVD burning software, I tried to go the cheap route and was just an idiot, I asked all the right questions but decided not to buy the good stuff for fear that HD would come along any day and leave me with a bunch of outdated gear and software. 4 programs later I have Vegas 4 + DVD on the way. My fault completely, if I could ever stop believing what I read in computer reviews and listen to more folks like DVInfo I might just save myself enough time and money to be creative as a videographer.

It's probably been mentioned, and I am sure it's a whole new headache, I wonder if Chris has ever been approached with the idea of having an area with "Product Reviews".. Yes the whole site has product reviews and opinions but a seperate area would be great to get an overall feel before purchasing (Then Chris could have links to dealers, maybe some purchase power, and then ....... and some ....... And I would feel so bad not being able to help because I am so busy:)

Jeff Jordan · September 13th, 2003, 03:40 PM

hi folks,

where can I get my hands on the aforementioned DVD training videos for Vegas?

I am new to NLE, but I want to get the best and not have to run through 10 different cheaper programs on my way up the ladder, so I am going to order Vegas 4 + DVD, and I understand there is a pretty steep learning curve for neophytes like me.

thanks for the info!

Michael Wisniewski · September 13th, 2003, 04:09 PM

Vegas 4 Class On Demand DVDs

and see Edward's post below :-)

Edward Troxel · September 13th, 2003, 04:15 PM

Michael pointed you to DSE's 4 DVD set. Gary's 2 DVD set is at Vegas Training and Tools

Gary's 2 DVD set review

DSE's 4 DVD set review

Andrew Petrie · September 13th, 2003, 08:14 PM

I have the V4 DSE set, It covers most of the basics to get going in Vegas. There's so many topics he could cover indepth though, I'm sure there will be more in the series.

As already said, it's Douglas talking you through various projects and features to make editing easier.

Imran Zaidi · September 13th, 2003, 09:46 PM

A few months back I was working on a project that I decided would be my 'finally throw away premiere and use vegas' project. It was sort of a hail mary when I ordered the Douglas Spotted Eagle 4-DVD set, hoping that it would help me get the job done.

It did! It has quite a lot of info packed in together. You can pay $50 for a book or you can pay about twice that much to get this DVD set and get 10 times the use out of it.

I highly recommend it.

Don Parrish · September 14th, 2003, 06:03 AM

Jeff,
I have Vegas Video 3 and was surprised at how fast I was able to be creative with it. It will take some learning but it is also straight forward, To upload something, VV3 has icons of a camera, cd, a scanner, a world (the net), a folder (computer files), just click on these to get the video and audio into the media pool. The media pool will have thumbnails of video, still pictures, and names of audio files. Just click and drag these clips to the timeline and boom, you are started.

It seems a lot of us are going to have these training DVD's. Once I learn V4 maybe I will pass them on ( as long as I feel no need to keep them), lower the price by 5 bucks, and send them down the line to other folks who can do the same. (it would take some honesty).

Someone mentioned further releases by Douglas Spotted Eagle, I believe I did read somewhere that he may create some advanced lesson in the near future.

September 12th, 2003, 05:57 PM	#1
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	vegas 4 training DVD set Has anyone used the 4 set DVD training series by Douglas Spotted Eagle. I recently purchased some photoshop 7 training DVD's (from some off brand company) They were simply video of documents, I just want to make sure it is not like reading a book, prefferably has him actually talking. ( I know, Ed and Chris, I saw the article) I have tech manuals galore right now (I have 4 200+ page maunuals I am reading). I need something so I can be lazy and sit back and take it in, not read through documents.

September 13th, 2003, 01:49 AM	#5
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Don, Which Photoshop 7 DVDs did you get? Just wanna know, so I know to avoid them. I'm thinking about ordering the Total Training DVDs for Photoshop and After Effects, because I was "totally" :-)impressed by the video tutorials on Adobe's site. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

September 13th, 2003, 03:40 PM	#7
Jeff Jordan New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 18	hi folks, where can I get my hands on the aforementioned DVD training videos for Vegas? I am new to NLE, but I want to get the best and not have to run through 10 different cheaper programs on my way up the ladder, so I am going to order Vegas 4 + DVD, and I understand there is a pretty steep learning curve for neophytes like me. thanks for the info! __________________ 20X optical using "L" glass is a beautiful thing.

September 13th, 2003, 04:09 PM	#8
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Vegas 4 Class On Demand DVDs and see Edward's post below :-) __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

September 13th, 2003, 08:14 PM	#10
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	I have the V4 DSE set, It covers most of the basics to get going in Vegas. There's so many topics he could cover indepth though, I'm sure there will be more in the series. As already said, it's Douglas talking you through various projects and features to make editing easier. __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)

September 12th, 2003, 07:07 PM	#2
Peter Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 193	dse's DVD is either him on camera talking, or live screenshots of what he is demonstrating. Recommended, as is Gary Kleiner's set.

September 12th, 2003, 08:42 PM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	They are NOT "simply video of documents". In both cases (DSE & Gary) it is like sitting in a room with them and listening and watching them talk about Vegas. Think of it as a personalized instruction class.

September 12th, 2003, 08:47 PM	#4
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	Thanks Edward and Peter, that was the description (word) I was looking for (but my brain is fried), Classroom style.

September 13th, 2003, 05:49 AM	#6
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	They were actually CD's (my mistake sorry), The company called Keyko, Personal Training photoshop 7, The most detailed and interactive training solution (yeh right). There wasn't even any audio, they just had some documents and an occaisonal arrow that would point to something. It has been a full time job to make sure money hits the right products. So much stuff, especially software, is disapointing. On DVD burning software, I tried to go the cheap route and was just an idiot, I asked all the right questions but decided not to buy the good stuff for fear that HD would come along any day and leave me with a bunch of outdated gear and software. 4 programs later I have Vegas 4 + DVD on the way. My fault completely, if I could ever stop believing what I read in computer reviews and listen to more folks like DVInfo I might just save myself enough time and money to be creative as a videographer. It's probably been mentioned, and I am sure it's a whole new headache, I wonder if Chris has ever been approached with the idea of having an area with "Product Reviews".. Yes the whole site has product reviews and opinions but a seperate area would be great to get an overall feel before purchasing (Then Chris could have links to dealers, maybe some purchase power, and then ....... and some ....... And I would feel so bad not being able to help because I am so busy:)

September 13th, 2003, 04:15 PM	#9
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Michael pointed you to DSE's 4 DVD set. Gary's 2 DVD set is at Vegas Training and Tools Gary's 2 DVD set review DSE's 4 DVD set review

September 13th, 2003, 09:46 PM	#11
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	A few months back I was working on a project that I decided would be my 'finally throw away premiere and use vegas' project. It was sort of a hail mary when I ordered the Douglas Spotted Eagle 4-DVD set, hoping that it would help me get the job done. It did! It has quite a lot of info packed in together. You can pay $50 for a book or you can pay about twice that much to get this DVD set and get 10 times the use out of it. I highly recommend it.

September 14th, 2003, 06:03 AM	#12
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	Jeff, I have Vegas Video 3 and was surprised at how fast I was able to be creative with it. It will take some learning but it is also straight forward, To upload something, VV3 has icons of a camera, cd, a scanner, a world (the net), a folder (computer files), just click on these to get the video and audio into the media pool. The media pool will have thumbnails of video, still pictures, and names of audio files. Just click and drag these clips to the timeline and boom, you are started. It seems a lot of us are going to have these training DVD's. Once I learn V4 maybe I will pass them on ( as long as I feel no need to keep them), lower the price by 5 bucks, and send them down the line to other folks who can do the same. (it would take some honesty). Someone mentioned further releases by Douglas Spotted Eagle, I believe I did read somewhere that he may create some advanced lesson in the near future.