Stumped with DVD Architect ...

[Bruce Spell]

I did a sample multi-camera edit within Vegas 8.0c from two source AVCHD clips (one from HDR-SR11 and one from HDR-SR12). Both clips were 1920x1080 AVCHD from the camera. The resulting timeline was 3:55:16 (min:sec:frames). I then rendered out (render as) to AVCHD 1920x1080 NTSC 5.1 surround (using the Sony AVC encoder template). This created a resulting *.m2ts file (so far so good). This new file had properties of 1920x1080, 29.97 fps, AVC and 48kHz, 5.1 Surround Dolby AC-3 (448kBits).

Next I opened a DVD Architect 5 project (Disc format: Blu-ray Disc, Video: AVC, 16:9, 1920x1080, 29.970 interlaced, Audio: AC-3 5.1 Surround, 448kbps) and brought in the newly rendered m2ts file (I know I should have rendered audio and video separately but bear with me for now). Two things became immediately apparent when I looked at the resulting project.

1. The audio on the timeline when looking at the media in the project suddenly goes completely silent after 2:06:02 until the end of the video. I've looked at the m2ts file back in Vegas and the audio is there until the end of the clip (3:55:16). Why would the audio suddenly just 'cut out' during the media?

2. When I select Optimize Disc from the File menu and look it tells me the video does not need recompression (expected) but the audio needs recompression (not expected). According to the Optimize Disc dialog the audio media is not compliant with the disc format. What gives here?

I'm currently re-rendering out of Vegas as separate *.avc and *.ac3 files now but that takes another pass (time consuming). I just don't understand why DVD Architect is acting like this. Any thoughts?

Bruce

[Bill Ravens]

That's just the way DVDA works. You will ALWAYS need to render twice....once for the video, once for the ac3.

[Jerome Cloninger]

Originally Posted by Bill Ravens

That's just the way DVDA works. You will ALWAYS need to render twice....once for the video, once for the ac3.

No you don't. Render from Vegas using Sony AVC 1080 template DO NOT ADJUST ANYTHING in that template! Then render out audio to AC3 or whatever. Keep the filenames the same (audio and video) except for the extension and DVDA will import the audio automatically.

In DVDA make sure you use the Blu-ray AVC project property settings.

You don't have to render out twice...

[Paul Kellett]

So render from vegas using avc template, then render out the audio.
That's rendering twice then !!

Paul.

[Jerome Cloninger]

Originally Posted by Paul Kellett

So render from vegas using avc template, then render out the audio.
That's rendering twice then !!

Paul.

I read everything too quickly... sorry. I took it that you were having to render the video twice. It doesn't take long to render audio. Why is it an issue then? Just use tools>batch render and set it to do audio then video so you won't have to mess with it.

[Bruce Spell]

I did go back and render separate video (*.avc) and audio (*.ac3) from Vegas. Bringing those into DVDA worked exactly as expected (full audio and no recompression required). I know this is the 'proper' way to do things but was just curious as to why I got the results I got with the *.m2ts file.

As a side note, though I don't need to create the *.m2ts file it is a good final edit master for the project. Just a shame that DVDA can't use it as well....

Bruce

[Laurence Scott]

At the risk of sounding newbish -
What is the advantage and or premise in rendering the video and audio separately when it comes to DVDA?
I put together a 15 minute clip to use on my 1st attempt with DVDA and I got the (re)compression message as well when I brought in the A/V as a single file and rendered it. However, I didn't have the sound drop out and the playback was fine throughout.

[Edward Troxel]

Originally Posted by Laurence Scott

What is the advantage and or premise in rendering the video and audio separately when it comes to DVDA?

Higher quality audio.

If you render the audio into the MPEG2 file, you are compressing the audio. DVD Architect then uncompresses that audio and then REcompresses it to AC3 audio. Doing the single compression to AC3 from Vegas will eliminate all of that decompressing and recompressing and give you higher quality audio.

[Jeff Harper]

Thanks Edward, now I know why we do it that way...I always just did it because that is how i was taught on this forum, but never knew why.

[Laurence Scott]

I appreciate the information -
Thanks Ed