Filmic colours from video at DVinfo.net

Danny O'Neill · September 9th, 2008, 08:15 AM

Hi,

I know you cant get it looking like film but Im desperatly trying to get a nice warm look from my FX1's footage but without blowing out the highlights.

I have applied a nice S shaped colour curve, I have tried magic bullets but this always seems to result in the highlights becoming blown out a bit and loosing their detail (wedding dress's). I want to remove the dullness you normall get from video and the blueness you also get so the contrast is nice but again keeping the detail.

Anyone have any presets they can share as a starting block or offer some advice? Everything I have tried so far seems to be a little too harsh sometimes.

Thanks

Ian Stark · September 9th, 2008, 10:33 AM

Hi Danny,

Which Magic Bullet version have you tried? Have you looked at the latest MB Looks (v3 or v2008 depending on who you're talking to!) or are you looking at the older versions that came bundled with Vegas?

Danny O'Neill · September 9th, 2008, 11:45 AM

MB looks 1.1, latest

Ian Stark · September 9th, 2008, 11:48 AM

Hmmm . . . you should be able to dial out some of that blown out problem - are you using the presets or have you played around with the myriad of tools? Keep in mind you have things like spot exposure control that may help you out.

Chris Barcellos · September 9th, 2008, 12:54 PM

Try dropping the color corrector filter on the time line or preview window for the entire project, and just move the center marker toward the reds on all three wheels and adjust as necessary.

Graham Bernard · September 10th, 2008, 01:50 AM

Do you think you can do this with your original footage? How are your existing levels?

Grazie

Danny O'Neill · September 10th, 2008, 05:35 AM

I think ive realised that with footage with normal exposure the brights get blown out real easy. Footage I have which is under exposed is easier to work with as there is very little that can blow out.

Graham Bernard · September 10th, 2008, 06:35 AM

Yup. Once captured blown, that's about it. No, correction - that IS it! Is the footage you are trying to affect already blown?

Grazie

Danny O'Neill · September 10th, 2008, 06:48 AM

Not blown but on the edge. It was captured on an FX1 with zebras set to 100+% (default) and with the iris and other levels while filming so that the subject had non on them expect where there was particular shine. Its this shine thats causing problems, also some skin in direct sunlight which looks sunburnt. The footage which is underexposed is a lot more flexible. If it was striaght from camera the exposure is spot on. But to tweak in post as I want to do its a little troublesome.

I have since changed zebras to 90% so I get a 10% margin. Mainly for those days where the sun comes and goes thanks to clouds and wind (love the UK!)

Graham Bernard · September 10th, 2008, 07:03 AM

Yes Danny - So your

"I know you cant get it looking like film but Im desperatly trying to get a nice warm look from my FX1's footage but without blowing out the highlights."

- it isn't the FX, it is rather you have overstepped the upper levels to start with - yeah?

Grazie

September 9th, 2008, 08:15 AM	#1
Danny O'Neill Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Northampton, UK Posts: 915	Filmic colours from video Hi, I know you cant get it looking like film but Im desperatly trying to get a nice warm look from my FX1's footage but without blowing out the highlights. I have applied a nice S shaped colour curve, I have tried magic bullets but this always seems to result in the highlights becoming blown out a bit and loosing their detail (wedding dress's). I want to remove the dullness you normall get from video and the blueness you also get so the contrast is nice but again keeping the detail. Anyone have any presets they can share as a starting block or offer some advice? Everything I have tried so far seems to be a little too harsh sometimes. Thanks __________________ mintyslippers.com

September 9th, 2008, 10:33 AM	#2
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Hi Danny, Which Magic Bullet version have you tried? Have you looked at the latest MB Looks (v3 or v2008 depending on who you're talking to!) or are you looking at the older versions that came bundled with Vegas? __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

September 9th, 2008, 11:45 AM	#3
Danny O'Neill Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Northampton, UK Posts: 915	MB looks 1.1, latest __________________ mintyslippers.com

September 9th, 2008, 11:48 AM	#4
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Hmmm . . . you should be able to dial out some of that blown out problem - are you using the presets or have you played around with the myriad of tools? Keep in mind you have things like spot exposure control that may help you out. __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

September 9th, 2008, 12:54 PM	#5
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Try dropping the color corrector filter on the time line or preview window for the entire project, and just move the center marker toward the reds on all three wheels and adjust as necessary. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

September 10th, 2008, 01:50 AM	#6
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Do you think you can do this with your original footage? How are your existing levels? Grazie

September 10th, 2008, 05:35 AM	#7
Danny O'Neill Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Northampton, UK Posts: 915	I think ive realised that with footage with normal exposure the brights get blown out real easy. Footage I have which is under exposed is easier to work with as there is very little that can blow out. __________________ mintyslippers.com

September 10th, 2008, 06:35 AM	#8
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Yup. Once captured blown, that's about it. No, correction - that IS it! Is the footage you are trying to affect already blown? Grazie

September 10th, 2008, 06:48 AM	#9
Danny O'Neill Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Northampton, UK Posts: 915	Not blown but on the edge. It was captured on an FX1 with zebras set to 100+% (default) and with the iris and other levels while filming so that the subject had non on them expect where there was particular shine. Its this shine thats causing problems, also some skin in direct sunlight which looks sunburnt. The footage which is underexposed is a lot more flexible. If it was striaght from camera the exposure is spot on. But to tweak in post as I want to do its a little troublesome. I have since changed zebras to 90% so I get a 10% margin. Mainly for those days where the sun comes and goes thanks to clouds and wind (love the UK!) __________________ mintyslippers.com

September 10th, 2008, 07:03 AM	#10
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Yes Danny - So your "I know you cant get it looking like film but Im desperatly trying to get a nice warm look from my FX1's footage but without blowing out the highlights." - it isn't the FX, it is rather you have overstepped the upper levels to start with - yeah? Grazie