Adding a color curve to the WHOLE project

Oliver Darden · September 7th, 2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

File - Render As - and pick the cineform/HDV codec.

Is that something you have to buy because I don't see that under "save as type". I use 8.0b.

Michael Wisniewski · September 7th, 2008, 07:03 PM

1. In the Render As window select: Video for Windows (*.avi)
2. Then select one of the HDV intermediate templates

Michael Wisniewski · September 7th, 2008, 07:05 PM

If you want to use QuickTime, you'll have to customize one of the templates, specifically change the Video Format.

Oliver Darden · September 7th, 2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Wisniewski

1. In the Render As window select: Video for Windows (*.avi)
2. Then select one of the HDV intermediate templates

I see...thank you. Which one should I use, HDV 720-30p or HDV 720-25p?

I am editing SD 720 x 480 footage.

Edward Troxel · September 8th, 2008, 07:26 AM

Since you're in the US, use 30p. 25p would be for PAL countries.

Oliver Darden · September 8th, 2008, 09:51 AM

ok, and my final question on this subject.

This format is better than rendering to uncompressed avi correct?

I will be rendering all 23 scenes to this and then opening them all in 1 project and rendering to mpeg2 / ac3 for a final DVD.

I will also be printing to tape from this format.

Don Bloom · September 8th, 2008, 10:20 AM

uncompressed files are HUGH! No real reason to render to uncompressed unless you need to save an alpha channel or something that requires you to do so.

Don

Kevin Richard · September 8th, 2008, 01:25 PM

Wait... using a nested project "rerenders" the file?

I thought it just opened it in the timeline as one track for convinience... exactly what the OP is trying to accomplish.

Chris Barcellos · September 8th, 2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Richard

Wait... using a nested project "rerenders" the file?

I thought it just opened it in the timeline as one track for convinience... exactly what the OP is trying to accomplish.

I agree with your assessment. There is no rendering going on when you drop a project on to a new time line. There may be some formatting issues to preview, if the projects are not the same. I do believe use of the project files can subject the final compile project to potential issues or errors, that are unnecessary risks, so once I am ready to lock a scene, I lock it by rendering, and use that in my final compile project. As I said, I elect to keep it simple.

Kevin Richard · September 8th, 2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

I agree with your assessment. There is no rendering going on when you drop a project on to a new time line. There may be some formatting issues to preview, if the projects are not the same. I do believe use of the project files can subject the final compile project to potential issues or errors, that are unnecessary risks, so once I am ready to lock a scene, I lock it by rendering, and use that in my final compile project. As I said, I elect to keep it simple.

I'm with you on that... just wanted to make sure that the facts were straight for me as well as anyone else that might be reading this.

So to the OP you could just drop your files in via nested and accomplish a lot of what you are looking to do. You would even be able to color correct different scenes differently if you wanted to as they would act like seperate clips on the "master" timeline.

Oliver Darden · September 8th, 2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Richard

I'm with you on that... just wanted to make sure that the facts were straight for me as well as anyone else that might be reading this.

So to the OP you could just drop your files in via nested and accomplish a lot of what you are looking to do. You would even be able to color correct different scenes differently if you wanted to as they would act like seperate clips on the "master" timeline.

The reason we are not talking about nested projects is becuase it not working for me (and a lot of other people) so I am trying to find another way of working neatly with a lot of scenes.

The cineform seems to be working for me while keep it high quality with out too much compression, I like the idea of rendering each scene and then taking it into a single project for the final render. This way also takes a lot of the stress off Vegas by pre-rendering big projects. This way I CAN use HUGE jpeg files and Vegas wont crash.

Really this thread was about something else to start with and kind of went off in another direction but it really helped me out...sorry if there is some confusion.

Kevin Richard · September 8th, 2008, 04:49 PM

I also vote as someone else did to just render out SD to regular dv codec... you don't lose too much, but I've never compared to cineform so I really can't comment.

Oliver Darden · September 8th, 2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Richard

I also vote as someone else did to just render out SD to regular dv codec... you don't lose too much, but I've never compared to cineform so I really can't comment.

What do you personally render out to for something like this Kevin?

Kevin Richard · September 8th, 2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver Darden

What do you personally render out to for something like this Kevin?

I've just come back out to regular a DV NTSC file. Only done once because I needed to quickly render out some clips for a live show that was then add them later to a dvd as a bonus.

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September 7th, 2008, 07:03 PM	#17
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September 8th, 2008, 09:51 AM	#21
Oliver Darden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 522	ok, and my final question on this subject. This format is better than rendering to uncompressed avi correct? I will be rendering all 23 scenes to this and then opening them all in 1 project and rendering to mpeg2 / ac3 for a final DVD. I will also be printing to tape from this format.

September 8th, 2008, 10:20 AM	#22
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	uncompressed files are HUGH! No real reason to render to uncompressed unless you need to save an alpha channel or something that requires you to do so. Don

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Kevin Richard Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 270	Wait... using a nested project "rerenders" the file? I thought it just opened it in the timeline as one track for convinience... exactly what the OP is trying to accomplish.

September 8th, 2008, 04:49 PM	#27
Kevin Richard Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 270	I also vote as someone else did to just render out SD to regular dv codec... you don't lose too much, but I've never compared to cineform so I really can't comment.