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Lynne Whelden · September 5th, 2008, 11:36 PM

Has anyone had any experience using Vegas on the bootcamp side of a MacBook Pro, for example? Is it too slow and clunky or just fine?

Edward Troxel · September 6th, 2008, 05:12 AM

You should find it's just fine.

Lynne Whelden · September 6th, 2008, 08:20 AM

The reason I need to know is that I'm on the verge of branching out in an entirely new direction--editing HDV. And the software question is crucial. Either I get a MacBook Pro (much more expensive) and thus create the option of having several different software directions to go with its bootcamp side. Or get a PC notebook (cheaper) like a Sony FW with a built-in blu-ray burner. So you're saying that using bootcamp with a PC-based editing system won't be a limitation....

Richard Hunter · September 6th, 2008, 09:12 AM

Vegas has a great user interface, but it is not strong in terms of realtime playback performance with HD formats. I don't have experience with Macs, or Macs running Vegas under bootcamp, but I suspect the performance degradation due to bootcamp won't make that much difference since native Vegas with HDV is already not very smooth. And rendering is very s-l-o-w as well. Personally, I'm mostly using Edius now for HDV projects as a result.

Richard

Russell Howard · September 6th, 2008, 11:13 AM

I edit AVCHD on Vegas 8 pro on my Macbook with no problems. It is somewhat slower than my quad core desktop, but you can work with it.

Lynne Whelden · September 6th, 2008, 12:16 PM

Can you create blu-ray discs with Edius?

Jeff Harper · September 6th, 2008, 04:25 PM

Grass Valley / Canopus NLE - The Digital Video Information Network

Lou Trottier · September 6th, 2008, 05:33 PM

I use Vegas on my Mac Pro/bootcamp all the time. Editing HDV runs better with this combo than it did on the quad core PC that the Mac replaced!

Lynne Whelden · September 6th, 2008, 07:00 PM

That's good to know! Now only if Apple would get behind blu-ray and come out with a new generation of Macbook Pros, huh? I can get a Sony FW laptop equipped with blu-ray burner and everything else matching a top-end MBP and get it for HALF the price!

Lou Trottier · September 6th, 2008, 07:35 PM

Just to clarify I'm using a Mac pro not a macbook pro. Sorry, I don't know how well a macbook pro will do.

Oliver Darden · September 6th, 2008, 08:21 PM

I am using a mac pro and it works great. XP only sees 4gbs of ram fyi but if you are using 8.0 it will atleast use all 4 cores.

Jason Bodnar · September 8th, 2008, 01:35 PM

I use Vegas on a MacBook Pro by way of Bootcamp and it works fantastic! I am editing full XDCAM HD 1920x1080 30p on the timeline with no trouble at all. My PC could not do this so the Mac architecture makes a difference...!

Lynne Whelden · September 8th, 2008, 02:53 PM

Interesting...so I guess the question becomes (and I don't think anyone could answer this), is the Sony VAIO FW notebook series "better" at processing HD video than a Macbook Pro. Or to phrase it differently, given that a MBP is almost 2x more expensive than the Sony FW, is it twice as good at dealing with (and this is key) HDV footage primarily in a documentary-style production?

Jason Bodnar · September 8th, 2008, 04:31 PM

Tough to say for sure... I have a Sony Vaio as well and it chokes when trying to edit, yet I have seen a few people use a customized Vaio (wiped Hardrive clean installed new OS then only NLE and they seem to be doing alright...so it may be just an optimization issue with OS and other Apps... however my experience has been the MacBook Pro has been worth every penny... esepecially the new High Rez screen.. I think the architecture of the Motherboard and Buss routing etc. are just better optimized.

Josh Bass · September 8th, 2008, 04:36 PM

I'd just like to add that I have an Imac, and have run Vegas in boot camp and Parallels. It works fine, EXCEPT, the audio is screwed up. Audio is fine in any other windows application, but plays back weirdly in Vegas.

When playing back from the timeline, I get these digital sounding beeps and boops, almost like dropped frames or overly compressed audio files, but there's nothing wrong with the source material. Unfortunately, these beeps and boops end up in the renders, not just playback.

I tried updating the sound drivers for Windows, and it seemed to help for a while, but now it's crappy again. Basically can't use Vegas for anything.

It's Windows XP, if that matters.

September 5th, 2008, 11:36 PM	#1
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	vegas and bootcamp Has anyone had any experience using Vegas on the bootcamp side of a MacBook Pro, for example? Is it too slow and clunky or just fine?

September 6th, 2008, 05:12 AM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You should find it's just fine. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 6th, 2008, 11:13 AM	#5
Russell Howard New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Angelo, TX Posts: 9	No problems I edit AVCHD on Vegas 8 pro on my Macbook with no problems. It is somewhat slower than my quad core desktop, but you can work with it.

September 8th, 2008, 04:36 PM	#15
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	I'd just like to add that I have an Imac, and have run Vegas in boot camp and Parallels. It works fine, EXCEPT, the audio is screwed up. Audio is fine in any other windows application, but plays back weirdly in Vegas. When playing back from the timeline, I get these digital sounding beeps and boops, almost like dropped frames or overly compressed audio files, but there's nothing wrong with the source material. Unfortunately, these beeps and boops end up in the renders, not just playback. I tried updating the sound drivers for Windows, and it seemed to help for a while, but now it's crappy again. Basically can't use Vegas for anything. It's Windows XP, if that matters. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

September 6th, 2008, 08:20 AM	#3
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	The reason I need to know is that I'm on the verge of branching out in an entirely new direction--editing HDV. And the software question is crucial. Either I get a MacBook Pro (much more expensive) and thus create the option of having several different software directions to go with its bootcamp side. Or get a PC notebook (cheaper) like a Sony FW with a built-in blu-ray burner. So you're saying that using bootcamp with a PC-based editing system won't be a limitation....

September 6th, 2008, 09:12 AM	#4
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	Vegas has a great user interface, but it is not strong in terms of realtime playback performance with HD formats. I don't have experience with Macs, or Macs running Vegas under bootcamp, but I suspect the performance degradation due to bootcamp won't make that much difference since native Vegas with HDV is already not very smooth. And rendering is very s-l-o-w as well. Personally, I'm mostly using Edius now for HDV projects as a result. Richard

September 6th, 2008, 12:16 PM	#6
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	Can you create blu-ray discs with Edius?

September 6th, 2008, 04:25 PM	#7
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Grass Valley / Canopus NLE - The Digital Video Information Network

September 6th, 2008, 05:33 PM	#8
Lou Trottier Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brampton,Ontario Canada Posts: 50	I use Vegas on my Mac Pro/bootcamp all the time. Editing HDV runs better with this combo than it did on the quad core PC that the Mac replaced!

September 6th, 2008, 07:00 PM	#9
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	That's good to know! Now only if Apple would get behind blu-ray and come out with a new generation of Macbook Pros, huh? I can get a Sony FW laptop equipped with blu-ray burner and everything else matching a top-end MBP and get it for HALF the price!

September 6th, 2008, 07:35 PM	#10
Lou Trottier Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brampton,Ontario Canada Posts: 50	Just to clarify I'm using a Mac pro not a macbook pro. Sorry, I don't know how well a macbook pro will do.

September 6th, 2008, 08:21 PM	#11
Oliver Darden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 522	I am using a mac pro and it works great. XP only sees 4gbs of ram fyi but if you are using 8.0 it will atleast use all 4 cores.

September 8th, 2008, 01:35 PM	#12
Jason Bodnar Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 376	I use Vegas on a MacBook Pro by way of Bootcamp and it works fantastic! I am editing full XDCAM HD 1920x1080 30p on the timeline with no trouble at all. My PC could not do this so the Mac architecture makes a difference...!

September 8th, 2008, 02:53 PM	#13
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	Interesting...so I guess the question becomes (and I don't think anyone could answer this), is the Sony VAIO FW notebook series "better" at processing HD video than a Macbook Pro. Or to phrase it differently, given that a MBP is almost 2x more expensive than the Sony FW, is it twice as good at dealing with (and this is key) HDV footage primarily in a documentary-style production?

September 8th, 2008, 04:31 PM	#14
Jason Bodnar Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 376	Tough to say for sure... I have a Sony Vaio as well and it chokes when trying to edit, yet I have seen a few people use a customized Vaio (wiped Hardrive clean installed new OS then only NLE and they seem to be doing alright...so it may be just an optimization issue with OS and other Apps... however my experience has been the MacBook Pro has been worth every penny... esepecially the new High Rez screen.. I think the architecture of the Motherboard and Buss routing etc. are just better optimized.