HD Clips from new Nikon d90 not visible in Vegas? at DVinfo.net

Voitek Nosovski · September 1st, 2008, 11:55 AM

Hello
Todya i got my hands on new Nikon d90 a digital slr with dh video capabilities, interchangable lenses, shallow DOF. Basically a dream come true for every film-look maniac.

I tried to edit some of the clips i made in Sony Vegas 7 and 8 but when i drag it onto playlist all i can see is a audio tracks and red color on video track.
Why is that? What i should do to be able to edit it? The file is not heavy/big since it plays smoothly in my VLC player.
I hope i dont need some kind of special codec which im aware is very complicated to install and use?

Please help, im excited about this camera and i would love to play with the clips ASAP!

Mike Gunter · September 1st, 2008, 12:37 PM

Hi,

What CODEC does it use?

Mike

Voitek Nosovski · September 1st, 2008, 12:43 PM

hey mike
im not sure, sorry im an amateur.
here is a long thread on this camera though, i hope in first few posts there will be the name of the codec
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/digital-v...over-hdmi.html

any help will be appreciated

Mike Gunter · September 1st, 2008, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voitek Nosovski

hey mike
im not sure, sorry im an amateur.
here is a long thread on this camera though, i hope in first few posts there will be the name of the codec
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/digital-v...over-hdmi.html

any help will be appreciated

Hi,

I went to the http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/im...df/d90_16p.pdf instead. It is a Motion JPEG CODEC. You must not have Vegas Pro 8, as I understand that M-JPEG is included in Vegas8 (I don't use it and can't attest to it).

You could download a demo copy and have a go at it.

My best.

Mike

Edward Troxel · September 1st, 2008, 06:39 PM

If it's MJPEG, Vegas 8 should handle it fine - earlier versions will not without downloading and installing an MJPEG codec. However, you need to confirm that it is.

If it's showing red frames in Vegas 8, it could be that Vegas thinks the file is corrupted. You might try using something like VirtualDub to convert it to a format Vegas can more easily read.

Jon Fairhurst · September 1st, 2008, 06:57 PM

I tried a D90 clip from the web in Vegas Pro 8.0b. I didn't get any video at all on the timeline. I was able to open the clip in After Effects CS3, but the framing was all messed up. I had complete success with Premiere CS3.

Then again, I don't know if the clip was uncorrupted. Don't count this as the final word.

Mike Dulay · September 6th, 2008, 05:33 PM

I tried to open the AVI files from the web as well but only audio was available in Vegas 8.0b. Perhaps there is something about the 720p size of the D90's files? The MJPEG AVI files from my Canon SD750 (640x480) have no trouble showing video. Both will playback in WMP and Media Player Classic without problems.

D90_orig.avi (as reported by Gspot):
Container: AVI v1.0
Video: 12.7 MB (98.58%)
Audio: 172 KB (1.30%)
AVI Overhead: 15.6KB (0.12%)

Video: Codec, MJPEG ; Name: Motion JPEG, Status: Codec(s) are Installed
Len: 0:08:000
Frms: 192
kbps: 13838
Qf: 0.605
Pics/s: 24
Frames/s: 24.00
pic: 1280x720
sar: 1.778 (16:9)
par: 1.000 (1:1)
dar: 1.778 (16:9)
Audio: Codec, PCM Audio ; Info, 11025Hz 176 kb/s (1 chnl)

vs the MJPEG from my SD750
Container:
OpenDML (AVI v2.0)
....
Codec: MJPG, Motion JPEG
...
Pics/s: 30.00 Frames/s 30/00
pic: 640x480
sar: 1.333 (4:3)
par: 1.000 (1:1)
dar: 1.333 (4.3)
Audio: Codec, PCM Audio ; Info: 44100Hz 706 kb/s (1 chnl)

Has anyone successfully loaded a D90 AVI to Vegas?

Richard Hunter · September 6th, 2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dulay

I tried to open the AVI files from the web as well but only audio was available in Vegas 8.0b. Perhaps there is something about the 720p size of the D90's files? The MJPEG AVI files from my Canon SD750 (640x480) have no trouble showing video. Both will playback in WMP and Media Player Classic without problems.

Has anyone successfully loaded a D90 AVI to Vegas?

Hi Mike. I just downloaded a sample AVI to try with vegas 8.0b, and I got the same results as you (only audio).

Richard

Richard Hunter · September 6th, 2008, 06:50 PM

And I can play the clips fine in WMP so iit appears to be a Vegas thing.

Richard

Mike Dulay · September 6th, 2008, 07:32 PM

I tried Windows Movie Maker 2 and it was able to open the video. This would be sad if the D90 AVIs need transcoding to use.

Mike Dulay · September 7th, 2008, 12:18 PM

I found a sample MJPEG from a Canon TX1. The main difference between the Nikon and Canon made files: AVI 1.0 vs OpenDML (aka AVI 2.0). Secondary differences are the framerate (24 vs 30 fps) and Audio (11 Khz vs 44 Khz)

Near as I can tell the older standard is VfW while the second is DirectShow. Which I find strange as I'd think Vegas would be more comfortable with the older standard unless it wasn't made for the kind of content its storing now.

September 1st, 2008, 11:55 AM	#1
Voitek Nosovski New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warsaw Poland Posts: 23	HD Clips from new Nikon d90 not visible in Vegas? Hello Todya i got my hands on new Nikon d90 a digital slr with dh video capabilities, interchangable lenses, shallow DOF. Basically a dream come true for every film-look maniac. I tried to edit some of the clips i made in Sony Vegas 7 and 8 but when i drag it onto playlist all i can see is a audio tracks and red color on video track. Why is that? What i should do to be able to edit it? The file is not heavy/big since it plays smoothly in my VLC player. I hope i dont need some kind of special codec which im aware is very complicated to install and use? Please help, im excited about this camera and i would love to play with the clips ASAP!

September 1st, 2008, 12:37 PM	#2
Mike Gunter Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalispell, Montana Posts: 164	Hi, What CODEC does it use? Mike __________________ Mike Gunter VideoTidbits.com

September 1st, 2008, 06:39 PM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If it's MJPEG, Vegas 8 should handle it fine - earlier versions will not without downloading and installing an MJPEG codec. However, you need to confirm that it is. If it's showing red frames in Vegas 8, it could be that Vegas thinks the file is corrupted. You might try using something like VirtualDub to convert it to a format Vegas can more easily read. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

September 1st, 2008, 06:57 PM	#6
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	I tried a D90 clip from the web in Vegas Pro 8.0b. I didn't get any video at all on the timeline. I was able to open the clip in After Effects CS3, but the framing was all messed up. I had complete success with Premiere CS3. Then again, I don't know if the clip was uncorrupted. Don't count this as the final word. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

September 6th, 2008, 05:33 PM	#7
Mike Dulay Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Somerville, NJ Posts: 304	I tried to open the AVI files from the web as well but only audio was available in Vegas 8.0b. Perhaps there is something about the 720p size of the D90's files? The MJPEG AVI files from my Canon SD750 (640x480) have no trouble showing video. Both will playback in WMP and Media Player Classic without problems. D90_orig.avi (as reported by Gspot): Container: AVI v1.0 Video: 12.7 MB (98.58%) Audio: 172 KB (1.30%) AVI Overhead: 15.6KB (0.12%) Video: Codec, MJPEG ; Name: Motion JPEG, Status: Codec(s) are Installed Len: 0:08:000 Frms: 192 kbps: 13838 Qf: 0.605 Pics/s: 24 Frames/s: 24.00 pic: 1280x720 sar: 1.778 (16:9) par: 1.000 (1:1) dar: 1.778 (16:9) Audio: Codec, PCM Audio ; Info, 11025Hz 176 kb/s (1 chnl) vs the MJPEG from my SD750 Container: OpenDML (AVI v2.0) .... Codec: MJPG, Motion JPEG ... Pics/s: 30.00 Frames/s 30/00 pic: 640x480 sar: 1.333 (4:3) par: 1.000 (1:1) dar: 1.333 (4.3) Audio: Codec, PCM Audio ; Info: 44100Hz 706 kb/s (1 chnl) Has anyone successfully loaded a D90 AVI to Vegas? __________________ DIY, 35mm, HV20: http://www.primitivebuteffective.net

September 1st, 2008, 12:43 PM	#3
Voitek Nosovski New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warsaw Poland Posts: 23	hey mike im not sure, sorry im an amateur. here is a long thread on this camera though, i hope in first few posts there will be the name of the codec http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/digital-v...over-hdmi.html any help will be appreciated

September 6th, 2008, 06:50 PM	#9
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	And I can play the clips fine in WMP so iit appears to be a Vegas thing. Richard

September 6th, 2008, 07:32 PM	#10
Mike Dulay Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Somerville, NJ Posts: 304	I tried Windows Movie Maker 2 and it was able to open the video. This would be sad if the D90 AVIs need transcoding to use. __________________ DIY, 35mm, HV20: http://www.primitivebuteffective.net

September 7th, 2008, 12:18 PM	#11
Mike Dulay Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Somerville, NJ Posts: 304	I found a sample MJPEG from a Canon TX1. The main difference between the Nikon and Canon made files: AVI 1.0 vs OpenDML (aka AVI 2.0). Secondary differences are the framerate (24 vs 30 fps) and Audio (11 Khz vs 44 Khz) Near as I can tell the older standard is VfW while the second is DirectShow. Which I find strange as I'd think Vegas would be more comfortable with the older standard unless it wasn't made for the kind of content its storing now. __________________ DIY, 35mm, HV20: http://www.primitivebuteffective.net