Need some help....Deshaker in Vegas 8 at DVinfo.net

Simon Denny · May 23rd, 2008, 03:21 AM

Hi all.
I have some footage taken in a truck and it needs deshaker to try and fix, or at least help the problem.
I use Vegas pro 8 and this is what i need help with?
Because the deshaker script will not work in Vegas, I have to render out my HD footage to an AVI file and then open Virtual Dub etc...
When i convert the HD footage to an AVI file, what is the best codec to use within Vegas 8?

Sony YUV codec.
Uncompressed.
Pal DVD Widescreen
Sony 10bit YUV codec. THE LIST GOES ON
Anyone have a suggestion.

What i'm after is to convert HD to SD AVI with no loss of pitcure quality other than HD to SD.

Anyone have a good workflow they would share? and while i'm at it, a workflow setting with deshaker?

Cheers
Simon

Marcus Marchesseault · May 23rd, 2008, 05:36 AM

I am interested in this answer from more experienced people with this workflow. I intend to export for interpolative slow motion software.

For image stabilization, I am using Mercalli from Prodad. Search these forums to learn about this plugin for Vegas. It was $120US when I bought it a few weeks ago. It seems to do a good job and being a plugin makes it very easy to use. If there was an interpolative slow motion plugin, I would use that instead of transcoding to .avi format.

Edward Troxel · May 23rd, 2008, 06:35 AM

If you're using VirtualDub, there's a script floating around that does a good job of taking care of everything for you. Uncompressed AVI would be fine if it's a small enough section or you have enough drive space.

Mike Kujbida · May 23rd, 2008, 06:58 AM

Here's a link to John Meyer's Deshaker script for Vegas.
This page also has a link to the original forum thread.

Bill Ravens · May 23rd, 2008, 07:01 AM

Cineform Neo HD or HDV works very well as an intermediate for export into VDub.

Simon Denny · May 23rd, 2008, 11:29 AM

Cheers Marcus,Edward, Mike & Bill
Good info from you guys, thanks.
Have looked at Mercalli,the script in Vegas 8 crashes and was going to look at Cineform Neo HD or HDV.

Thanks
Simon

Marcus Marchesseault · May 23rd, 2008, 05:58 PM

How about Sony YUV HD? It is smaller than uncompressed (while still being quite large) and seems to look good. My quadcore is not fast enough to play it back at full framerate in full definition so it would be nice to know how the codec holds up before investing days testing. I also am hesitant to get Cineform and only use it as an avenue for slow motion rendering unless there are other clear benefits. Any suggestions?

Simon Denny · May 23rd, 2008, 06:15 PM

Hi Marcus,
Where do i find the Sony YUV HD codec?

Simon

Marcus Marchesseault · May 23rd, 2008, 09:41 PM

This is how I would do it but you need to select the corresponding PAL codecs:

Under "Render As" select "Video for Windows (*.avi)" under "Save as type". Select "HD 1080-60i YUV" and I believe that is the Sony codec. There is also "HDV 1080i-60i intermediate". I really don't know what will be the results of either.

May 23rd, 2008, 03:21 AM	#1
Simon Denny Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,409	Need some help....Deshaker in Vegas 8 Hi all. I have some footage taken in a truck and it needs deshaker to try and fix, or at least help the problem. I use Vegas pro 8 and this is what i need help with? Because the deshaker script will not work in Vegas, I have to render out my HD footage to an AVI file and then open Virtual Dub etc... When i convert the HD footage to an AVI file, what is the best codec to use within Vegas 8? Sony YUV codec. Uncompressed. Pal DVD Widescreen Sony 10bit YUV codec. THE LIST GOES ON Anyone have a suggestion. What i'm after is to convert HD to SD AVI with no loss of pitcure quality other than HD to SD. Anyone have a good workflow they would share? and while i'm at it, a workflow setting with deshaker? Cheers Simon

May 23rd, 2008, 06:35 AM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you're using VirtualDub, there's a script floating around that does a good job of taking care of everything for you. Uncompressed AVI would be fine if it's a small enough section or you have enough drive space. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 23rd, 2008, 05:36 AM	#2
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	I am interested in this answer from more experienced people with this workflow. I intend to export for interpolative slow motion software. For image stabilization, I am using Mercalli from Prodad. Search these forums to learn about this plugin for Vegas. It was $120US when I bought it a few weeks ago. It seems to do a good job and being a plugin makes it very easy to use. If there was an interpolative slow motion plugin, I would use that instead of transcoding to .avi format.

May 23rd, 2008, 06:58 AM	#4
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Here's a link to John Meyer's Deshaker script for Vegas. This page also has a link to the original forum thread.

May 23rd, 2008, 07:01 AM	#5
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Cineform Neo HD or HDV works very well as an intermediate for export into VDub.

May 23rd, 2008, 11:29 AM	#6
Simon Denny Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,409	Cheers Marcus,Edward, Mike & Bill Good info from you guys, thanks. Have looked at Mercalli,the script in Vegas 8 crashes and was going to look at Cineform Neo HD or HDV. Thanks Simon

May 23rd, 2008, 05:58 PM	#7
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	How about Sony YUV HD? It is smaller than uncompressed (while still being quite large) and seems to look good. My quadcore is not fast enough to play it back at full framerate in full definition so it would be nice to know how the codec holds up before investing days testing. I also am hesitant to get Cineform and only use it as an avenue for slow motion rendering unless there are other clear benefits. Any suggestions?

May 23rd, 2008, 06:15 PM	#8
Simon Denny Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,409	Hi Marcus, Where do i find the Sony YUV HD codec? Simon

May 23rd, 2008, 09:41 PM	#9
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	This is how I would do it but you need to select the corresponding PAL codecs: Under "Render As" select "Video for Windows (*.avi)" under "Save as type". Select "HD 1080-60i YUV" and I believe that is the Sony codec. There is also "HDV 1080i-60i intermediate". I really don't know what will be the results of either.