Vegas 7.0d

Roberto Longo · April 4th, 2008, 04:12 AM

I have a problem.
I edit with Vegas 7.0d my jvc 720 24p footage.
After editing and rendering I notice a brighter and more contrasted image on windows media player than on vegas.
Looking deeper I found out that if I switch off overlay on media player options the video will look exactly as it was on Vegas.
How can I solve it?
Wich is the "real" look?

Thanks, Roberto

Sami Sanpakkila · April 4th, 2008, 05:15 AM

the real look is what you see in Vegas. Try downloading a VLC media player (its free).

if you look at your file with Windows media player, Quicktime player etc you will see that each of them might look different. Im using VLC media player to review my footage as it seems to give the most "real" look.

What format are you rendering to?

Roberto Longo · April 4th, 2008, 05:31 AM

I know VLC, the point is it cannot play cineform or canopus intermediate formats (the ones I use).
By the way you tell me that what I see on Vegas is the real picture but.. what I see in mediaplayer is what people will see..

Sami Sanpakkila · April 4th, 2008, 05:59 AM

What changes is propably color space and that is a bit tricky, Ive been fighting with the same issue myself. Try rendering out to WMV and see if that looks good in Windows media player, just as a test. If thats the case someone more technical then me will have to help you. I dont use cineform or canopus so I dont know them.

Steven Thomas · April 4th, 2008, 09:37 AM

Welcome to the Vegas colorspace & level wrangling world...

The Vegas preview window is displaying studio RGB. This is the correct levels when viewing with an external NTSC monitor.

Based on how you set up your graphic card, windows media overlay will be able to match your studio RGB levels. When you disable the overlay, your using computer RGB. This is the difference you are seeing.

Studio RGB (NTSC RGB): Black is 16 and whites are 235.
Computer RGB: Black is 0 and whites are 255.

April 4th, 2008, 04:12 AM	#1
Roberto Longo New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Italy Milan Posts: 23	Vegas 7.0d - Brightness and overlay I have a problem. I edit with Vegas 7.0d my jvc 720 24p footage. After editing and rendering I notice a brighter and more contrasted image on windows media player than on vegas. Looking deeper I found out that if I switch off overlay on media player options the video will look exactly as it was on Vegas. How can I solve it? Wich is the "real" look? Thanks, Roberto

April 4th, 2008, 05:15 AM	#2
Sami Sanpakkila Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 317	the real look is what you see in Vegas. Try downloading a VLC media player (its free). if you look at your file with Windows media player, Quicktime player etc you will see that each of them might look different. Im using VLC media player to review my footage as it seems to give the most "real" look. What format are you rendering to?

April 4th, 2008, 05:31 AM	#3
Roberto Longo New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Italy Milan Posts: 23	I know VLC, the point is it cannot play cineform or canopus intermediate formats (the ones I use). By the way you tell me that what I see on Vegas is the real picture but.. what I see in mediaplayer is what people will see..

April 4th, 2008, 05:59 AM	#4
Sami Sanpakkila Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 317	What changes is propably color space and that is a bit tricky, Ive been fighting with the same issue myself. Try rendering out to WMV and see if that looks good in Windows media player, just as a test. If thats the case someone more technical then me will have to help you. I dont use cineform or canopus so I dont know them.

April 4th, 2008, 09:37 AM	#5
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Welcome to the Vegas colorspace & level wrangling world... The Vegas preview window is displaying studio RGB. This is the correct levels when viewing with an external NTSC monitor. Based on how you set up your graphic card, windows media overlay will be able to match your studio RGB levels. When you disable the overlay, your using computer RGB. This is the difference you are seeing. Studio RGB (NTSC RGB): Black is 16 and whites are 235. Computer RGB: Black is 0 and whites are 255.