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John Woo · March 16th, 2008, 09:03 PM

Last week, I shot a fashion show on HDV mode and yesterday the client told me the plasma TV on their shop which will screen the show footage will be hung vertically. Does that means my video will have to be edited in 'potrait mode' or is there a setting on the Plasma TV which will resize my video accordingly? If it is the former, how should I edit the video? Is there a template for 9:16 instead of 16:9 or should I use 16:9 and crop the video throughout. Any advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks

I am on Vegas pro 8

Dave Blackhurst · March 16th, 2008, 11:23 PM

well, that's one way to get skinny models...

You probably should scope out the display setup before you edit, sounds sort of unusual.

My offhand guess is you'll have to "flip" your 16x9 ratio and MAKE SURE WHICH END IS UP!

I'm guessing this is a fashion industry thing, probably a fully custom install, so you'll need to accomodate - probably would have been handy to know BEFORE you shot... cropping is going to kill your resolution, even with HD source. Strangely I was contemplating shooting in portrait mode earlier today, but nothing quite like THIS...

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 17th, 2008, 01:25 AM

In Vegas Pro 8, you can set the display to be vertical vs horizontal in both the Project Properties, and in the media properties. Set em' both at 90, assuming you've acquired footage at 90. I have a stream on YouTube showing exactly how to do this, but it's essentially just setting up a 90 degree project and using a 90 degree on your media. That's it.

John Woo · March 17th, 2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle

In Vegas Pro 8, you can set the display to be vertical vs horizontal in both the Project Properties, and in the media properties. Set em' both at 90, assuming you've acquired footage at 90. I have a stream on YouTube showing exactly how to do this, but it's essentially just setting up a 90 degree project and using a 90 degree on your media. That's it.

tks for the reply. I am new to Vegas pro 8, can you elaborate a bit on how to set vertical vs horizontal in the project properties and when you said 90 degree, do you mean rotate the media by 90 degree.

I tried to search your name on youtube but couldn't find that video, If you can point me to the URL would be great. Tks again

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 17th, 2008, 10:06 AM

Digital Signage in Vegas Pro 8 from DSE/VASST. I hope it helps you get it done!

John Woo · March 17th, 2008, 11:54 AM

but my original footage was shot on landscape and not potrait mode, what can i do now? Any other way out?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 17th, 2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by John Woo

but my original footage was shot on landscape and not potrait mode, what can i do now? Any other way out?

yeah, you can divide the screen into thirds, and put other info in the upper/lower thirds. That's about it.

John Woo · March 17th, 2008, 12:33 PM

Please bear with me a bit, I don't really understand what you meant, care to elaborate a little more. Thank you very much.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 17th, 2008, 12:38 PM

Your image, if shot in HD, will fill only 1/3 of the vertical display, right? That leaves you with 2/3 of empty screen. Usually this is divided top/middle/bottom, and your primary image would go in the middle, therefore leaving you empty top and empty bottom. Make sense?

John Woo · March 17th, 2008, 01:06 PM

and the final video will only show the middle third with the top and bottom third showing in black? I have attached a pic, does it look like what you mentioned?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 17th, 2008, 01:37 PM

Yup, that's exactly what I was talking about. you can now fill in the top and bottom with other media.

John Woo · March 17th, 2008, 10:13 PM

is there anyway I can crop and fill the entire vertical screen with just the model walking down the runway?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · March 17th, 2008, 11:00 PM

Not if you want it to look decent, no. It'll be VERY soft and pixelated, and depending on the source, it might even not be recognizable.

David Hadden · March 18th, 2008, 12:14 AM

If I were you I'd loop a series of artsy style fashion images/video and text etc... behind it ( make sure your client won't be put off by this first maybe, course he was the one who had you shoot the show and *then* told you it would be Vertical not horizontal :) ). and so on. (btw, next time you shoot one of these I'd be happy to help ;-), course my wife might not be happy with me saying that :P so it's probably in my best interest to not :)

Dave

George Kroonder · March 18th, 2008, 07:49 AM

For in-store display your viewers will have attention spans of seconds so you can be quite bold and flashy to get their attention (do get your client to sign off on anything though).

The viewers may not be directly in front of the screens; these may be higer up or behind a counter. The farther the distance between viewer and screen the more you can get away with some up-rezing.

I would use a bold (maybe moving) background and type, then possibly use short inserts and clips with the actual footage. If there were stills available (at higher res) you can see if those can be used as well.

George/

March 16th, 2008, 09:03 PM	#1
John Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 160	Video in Potrait mode Last week, I shot a fashion show on HDV mode and yesterday the client told me the plasma TV on their shop which will screen the show footage will be hung vertically. Does that means my video will have to be edited in 'potrait mode' or is there a setting on the Plasma TV which will resize my video accordingly? If it is the former, how should I edit the video? Is there a template for 9:16 instead of 16:9 or should I use 16:9 and crop the video throughout. Any advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks I am on Vegas pro 8

March 17th, 2008, 01:25 AM	#3
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	In Vegas Pro 8, you can set the display to be vertical vs horizontal in both the Project Properties, and in the media properties. Set em' both at 90, assuming you've acquired footage at 90. I have a stream on YouTube showing exactly how to do this, but it's essentially just setting up a 90 degree project and using a 90 degree on your media. That's it. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

March 17th, 2008, 10:06 AM	#5
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Digital Signage in Vegas Pro 8 from DSE/VASST. I hope it helps you get it done! __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

March 17th, 2008, 12:38 PM	#9
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Your image, if shot in HD, will fill only 1/3 of the vertical display, right? That leaves you with 2/3 of empty screen. Usually this is divided top/middle/bottom, and your primary image would go in the middle, therefore leaving you empty top and empty bottom. Make sense? __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

March 17th, 2008, 01:06 PM	#10
John Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 160	and the final video will only show the middle third with the top and bottom third showing in black? I have attached a pic, does it look like what you mentioned? Attached Thumbnails

March 16th, 2008, 11:23 PM	#2
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	well, that's one way to get skinny models... You probably should scope out the display setup before you edit, sounds sort of unusual. My offhand guess is you'll have to "flip" your 16x9 ratio and MAKE SURE WHICH END IS UP! I'm guessing this is a fashion industry thing, probably a fully custom install, so you'll need to accomodate - probably would have been handy to know BEFORE you shot... cropping is going to kill your resolution, even with HD source. Strangely I was contemplating shooting in portrait mode earlier today, but nothing quite like THIS...

March 17th, 2008, 11:54 AM	#6
John Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 160	but my original footage was shot on landscape and not potrait mode, what can i do now? Any other way out?

March 17th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#8
John Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 160	Please bear with me a bit, I don't really understand what you meant, care to elaborate a little more. Thank you very much.

March 17th, 2008, 01:37 PM	#11
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Yup, that's exactly what I was talking about. you can now fill in the top and bottom with other media. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

March 17th, 2008, 10:13 PM	#12
John Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 160	is there anyway I can crop and fill the entire vertical screen with just the model walking down the runway?

March 17th, 2008, 11:00 PM	#13
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Not if you want it to look decent, no. It'll be VERY soft and pixelated, and depending on the source, it might even not be recognizable. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

March 18th, 2008, 12:14 AM	#14
David Hadden Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 149	If I were you I'd loop a series of artsy style fashion images/video and text etc... behind it ( make sure your client won't be put off by this first maybe, course he was the one who had you shoot the show and then told you it would be Vertical not horizontal :) ). and so on. (btw, next time you shoot one of these I'd be happy to help ;-), course my wife might not be happy with me saying that :P so it's probably in my best interest to not :) Dave

March 18th, 2008, 07:49 AM	#15
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	For in-store display your viewers will have attention spans of seconds so you can be quite bold and flashy to get their attention (do get your client to sign off on anything though). The viewers may not be directly in front of the screens; these may be higer up or behind a counter. The farther the distance between viewer and screen the more you can get away with some up-rezing. I would use a bold (maybe moving) background and type, then possibly use short inserts and clips with the actual footage. If there were stills available (at higher res) you can see if those can be used as well. George/