Cineform issue in Vegas 8 at DVinfo.net

Mark Howells · February 9th, 2008, 04:42 AM

Hi,

Just upgraded to HD and Vegas 8. I read that converting the mt2 files to the intermediary Cineform avi codec, and then editing these on the timeline rather than mt2, was more efficient for older computers and virtually lossless. So, I took 1 of my captured mt2 files and rendered it using the Cineform HD v2.8 codec just to see how long it took, file sizes etc. However, the resulting image has loads of blue, red and white dashes across it (see atttached file). Is this normal?

Any ideas what the problem is?

David Newman · February 9th, 2008, 10:55 AM

Not normal, unfrotunately I don' t know way the free version might be doing that. Sony ships a very old version of the CineForm codec, you can upgrade for free to codec version 3.5.x by downloading NEO Player from http://www.cineform.com/products/Dow...layerStart.htm

Bill Binder · March 28th, 2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

Not normal, unfrotunately I don' t know way the free version might be doing that. Sony ships a very old version of the CineForm codec, you can upgrade for free to codec version 3.5.x by downloading NEO Player from CineForm NEO Player

I know this thread is old, but this is still relevant to me. So, when you say you can "upgrade for free to codec version..." Do you mean someone using Vegas 8 and no extra license for Cineform can install the new Neo Player and then Vegas will encode using the newer codec? Or do you only mean that it will use the new codec for decoding only?

Danny Fye · March 29th, 2009, 07:19 AM

While I don't have the blue, red and white dashes I do have poor preview with it. I cannot get full frames rate with it even without any filters.

I can get full frame-rate with M2T files though.

I am using HDLink 3.4.2 build 38 and I even tried to use the NEO player to get the latest codec and it is still quite poor.

So, considering all of the excessive hoops one has to go through to even install this, the high price and the lack of results, I have given up on Cineform altogether.

Maybe if I upgraded to Neo or whatever it is now called for $$$$$$ the problems would be solved but it hardly seems worth it anymore.

Danny Fye
VidMus Video - Music Productions

David Newman · March 29th, 2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Binder

I know this thread is old, but this is still relevant to me. So, when you say you can "upgrade for free to codec version..." Do you mean someone using Vegas 8 and no extra license for Cineform can install the new Neo Player and then Vegas will encode using the newer codec? Or do you only mean that it will use the new codec for decoding only?

Neo Player provides decoding only.

Gints Klimanis · March 30th, 2009, 04:22 PM

Do you see these artifacts during playback or in the image file from the screen grab ?

February 9th, 2008, 04:42 AM	#1
Mark Howells Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 99	Cineform issue in Vegas 8 Hi, Just upgraded to HD and Vegas 8. I read that converting the mt2 files to the intermediary Cineform avi codec, and then editing these on the timeline rather than mt2, was more efficient for older computers and virtually lossless. So, I took 1 of my captured mt2 files and rendered it using the Cineform HD v2.8 codec just to see how long it took, file sizes etc. However, the resulting image has loads of blue, red and white dashes across it (see atttached file). Is this normal? Any ideas what the problem is? Attached Thumbnails

February 9th, 2008, 10:55 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Not normal, unfrotunately I don' t know way the free version might be doing that. Sony ships a very old version of the CineForm codec, you can upgrade for free to codec version 3.5.x by downloading NEO Player from http://www.cineform.com/products/Dow...layerStart.htm __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 29th, 2009, 07:19 AM	#4
Danny Fye Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 318	While I don't have the blue, red and white dashes I do have poor preview with it. I cannot get full frames rate with it even without any filters. I can get full frame-rate with M2T files though. I am using HDLink 3.4.2 build 38 and I even tried to use the NEO player to get the latest codec and it is still quite poor. So, considering all of the excessive hoops one has to go through to even install this, the high price and the lack of results, I have given up on Cineform altogether. Maybe if I upgraded to Neo or whatever it is now called for $$$$$$ the problems would be solved but it hardly seems worth it anymore. Danny Fye VidMus Video - Music Productions __________________ www.dannyfye.com

March 30th, 2009, 04:22 PM	#6
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Do you see these artifacts during playback or in the image file from the screen grab ?