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Jeff Harper · December 12th, 2007, 02:26 PM

Photo Mosaic at the link below, how was it done, anyone know?

http://www.glasseyevideo.com/wedding/screen/

Kim Olsson · December 12th, 2007, 03:58 PM

There is specific applications which doing this...

Doing this manually, would presumably take 100 hours...

info:

http://www.graphic-design.com/photog...otomozaic.html

Jeff Harper · December 12th, 2007, 06:00 PM

I found a program titlted Advanced Easy Mosaic and have tried the trial version, but I cannot be sure it will make a mosaic at high enough resolution to zoom in on as the video on the website does. I also found AndreaMosaic (freeware) but am having difficult using it.

Jeff Harper · December 12th, 2007, 06:08 PM

Kim, thanks for the links page! I found what appears to be the best program for it, and it is only $39.

Thank you again!

Thomas Edward Bufkin · December 13th, 2007, 07:14 AM

So Jeff, how well does the $39.00 program work and where did you get it?

thanks,

Thomas Edward Bufkin

Jeff Harper · December 13th, 2007, 11:13 AM

It is by ArcSoft and I didn't buy it, I soon discovered other programs, but they are difficult to evaluate because of the limitations of the trial versions. ArcSoft doesn't have a trial version. I am hoping someone here will come along that has a recommendation. At least I know now that there are software programs to use for it.

Kim Olsson · December 13th, 2007, 12:49 PM

No problems Jeff, great that I could help you a little bit...

Ian Stark · December 13th, 2007, 03:22 PM

One of the most effective 'mosaic' effects I have seen was in the (bear with me!!) animated-photo-montage-created-in-after-effects-and-photoshop-that-the-producers-went-on-to-make-a-dvd-about-the-making-of-it thingy.

There is a short sequence using a photomosaic and the resolution looked pretty good. I don't own the 'making of' video but I have seen it and believe it or not I actually wrote down what they said about the photomosaic software they used!

I'll see if I can find it when I get home.

A little off-topic - - I don't get involved with wedding videos personally but there were some nice ideas on display at the Glass Eye web site (albeit let down by shoddy camera work in a few cases).

One thing that puzzles me though - are wedding videographers exempt from licensing music for videos? There were a few well known hits being used in their demos and I'm pretty sure the licensing fees would be out of reach for most happy couples! I'm curious, is there some kind of blanket licence that covers weddings or do licensors turn a blind eye? Prices weren't quoted in their packages but they do say "you choose the song, we do the rest" or words to that effect.

Don Bloom · December 13th, 2007, 03:43 PM

as I recall a couple of years ago David Mathew Bonner did a sequence that had a very well done mosaic but IIRC he did it in AE.
Pretty intensive work in AE
Don

Steven Davis · December 13th, 2007, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Stark

A little off-topic - - I don't get involved with wedding videos personally but there were some nice ideas on display at the Glass Eye web site (albeit let down by shoddy camera work in a few cases).

One thing that puzzles me though - are wedding videographers exempt from licensing music for videos? There were a few well known hits being used in their demos and I'm pretty sure the licensing fees would be out of reach for most happy couples! I'm curious, is there some kind of blanket licence that covers weddings or do licensors turn a blind eye? Prices weren't quoted in their packages but they do say "you choose the song, we do the rest" or words to that effect.

Ian, this has been thoroughly discussed, you can probably find all the threads by doing search on music license, music copyright etc.

Jeff Harper · December 13th, 2007, 04:00 PM

I would like very much to know the name of the software if you find it Ian. I agree about his nice work Ian. He is a popular videographer here in Cincinnati. I might just have to call him. He might be perfectly fine sharing his method, who knows?

I may even have a trial version of a program that does it, but as I mentioned I cannot tell with the low rez settings if I would be able to be zoom in as the example above does. I hate to spend money on an unknown even if its only $39. Another promising program is Mosaic Creator, but again, same problem with the demo vs paid version. I did search for reviews and couldn't find any from anyone I'd heard of.

Ian Stark · December 13th, 2007, 04:19 PM

Yeah, you're right Steven, it's a topic for another forum. I was just curious, is all and tacked it onto my response to Jeff's question.

I would argue that the other threads on the subject are, when read together, ambiguous to say the least! One post, written by a man who should know, says "you want to use that hit track it'll cost you $5000 or you AND your customer are breaking the law" and another, in a different thread, says "nah, there's an annual licence you can buy that covers you for as much music as you want!".

As I said, just curious. Weddings are not my thing. Not since I got married, anyway . . .

Ian Stark · December 13th, 2007, 04:22 PM

Jeff, searching as I type!

I don't know if he is the guy that first used the technique, but I have seen elsewhere a website that offers an After Effects project template for the 3d montage effect he has at the bottom of his gallery. As I say, it may be him that made it first and is selling it from a different site. Nice effect though (in shorter doses than he is demo'ing, IMO).

Ian Stark · December 13th, 2007, 04:45 PM

There ya go!

http://www.andreaplanet.com/andreamosaic/

And it's freeware! Doesn't look much but it was the s/w used to great effect (I think) in the video montage I mentioned before (can't find the name of it though!!!).

I have no experience with this s/w so I can't compare it with others already mentioned, but as I recall, the reason they chose this product (apart from the price!) was the ability to create very large mosaics that would zoom in and out well.

Check out the Starry Night sample on the web site! HUGE!

Ah! Found the example!!!

http://www.pixelpops.com/videoproduc...-3dphoto.shtml

The mosaic piece is close to the end, around 3m10s (no time indicator on the flash player so can't be precise).

Jeff Harper · December 13th, 2007, 05:41 PM

Thanks Ian, I actually HAVE andrea mosaic, but had trouble with it! I'll give it another go!

December 12th, 2007, 02:26 PM	#1
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	how was this done? Photo Mosaic at the link below, how was it done, anyone know? http://www.glasseyevideo.com/wedding/screen/

December 13th, 2007, 07:14 AM	#5
Thomas Edward Bufkin New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 21	photo mosaic So Jeff, how well does the $39.00 program work and where did you get it? thanks, Thomas Edward Bufkin

December 13th, 2007, 03:22 PM	#8
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	One of the most effective 'mosaic' effects I have seen was in the (bear with me!!) animated-photo-montage-created-in-after-effects-and-photoshop-that-the-producers-went-on-to-make-a-dvd-about-the-making-of-it thingy. There is a short sequence using a photomosaic and the resolution looked pretty good. I don't own the 'making of' video but I have seen it and believe it or not I actually wrote down what they said about the photomosaic software they used! I'll see if I can find it when I get home. A little off-topic - - I don't get involved with wedding videos personally but there were some nice ideas on display at the Glass Eye web site (albeit let down by shoddy camera work in a few cases). One thing that puzzles me though - are wedding videographers exempt from licensing music for videos? There were a few well known hits being used in their demos and I'm pretty sure the licensing fees would be out of reach for most happy couples! I'm curious, is there some kind of blanket licence that covers weddings or do licensors turn a blind eye? Prices weren't quoted in their packages but they do say "you choose the song, we do the rest" or words to that effect. __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 13th, 2007, 03:43 PM	#9
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	as I recall a couple of years ago David Mathew Bonner did a sequence that had a very well done mosaic but IIRC he did it in AE. Pretty intensive work in AE Don Last edited by Don Bloom; December 13th, 2007 at 03:46 PM. Reason: correction

December 13th, 2007, 04:19 PM	#12
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Yeah, you're right Steven, it's a topic for another forum. I was just curious, is all and tacked it onto my response to Jeff's question. I would argue that the other threads on the subject are, when read together, ambiguous to say the least! One post, written by a man who should know, says "you want to use that hit track it'll cost you $5000 or you AND your customer are breaking the law" and another, in a different thread, says "nah, there's an annual licence you can buy that covers you for as much music as you want!". As I said, just curious. Weddings are not my thing. Not since I got married, anyway . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 12th, 2007, 03:58 PM	#2
Kim Olsson Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 263	There is specific applications which doing this... Doing this manually, would presumably take 100 hours... info: http://www.graphic-design.com/photog...otomozaic.html

December 12th, 2007, 06:00 PM	#3
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I found a program titlted Advanced Easy Mosaic and have tried the trial version, but I cannot be sure it will make a mosaic at high enough resolution to zoom in on as the video on the website does. I also found AndreaMosaic (freeware) but am having difficult using it.

December 12th, 2007, 06:08 PM	#4
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Kim, thanks for the links page! I found what appears to be the best program for it, and it is only $39. Thank you again!

December 13th, 2007, 11:13 AM	#6
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	It is by ArcSoft and I didn't buy it, I soon discovered other programs, but they are difficult to evaluate because of the limitations of the trial versions. ArcSoft doesn't have a trial version. I am hoping someone here will come along that has a recommendation. At least I know now that there are software programs to use for it.

December 13th, 2007, 12:49 PM	#7
Kim Olsson Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 263	No problems Jeff, great that I could help you a little bit...

December 13th, 2007, 04:00 PM	#11
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I would like very much to know the name of the software if you find it Ian. I agree about his nice work Ian. He is a popular videographer here in Cincinnati. I might just have to call him. He might be perfectly fine sharing his method, who knows? I may even have a trial version of a program that does it, but as I mentioned I cannot tell with the low rez settings if I would be able to be zoom in as the example above does. I hate to spend money on an unknown even if its only $39. Another promising program is Mosaic Creator, but again, same problem with the demo vs paid version. I did search for reviews and couldn't find any from anyone I'd heard of.

December 13th, 2007, 04:22 PM	#13
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Jeff, searching as I type! I don't know if he is the guy that first used the technique, but I have seen elsewhere a website that offers an After Effects project template for the 3d montage effect he has at the bottom of his gallery. As I say, it may be him that made it first and is selling it from a different site. Nice effect though (in shorter doses than he is demo'ing, IMO). __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 13th, 2007, 04:45 PM	#14
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	There ya go! http://www.andreaplanet.com/andreamosaic/ And it's freeware! Doesn't look much but it was the s/w used to great effect (I think) in the video montage I mentioned before (can't find the name of it though!!!). I have no experience with this s/w so I can't compare it with others already mentioned, but as I recall, the reason they chose this product (apart from the price!) was the ability to create very large mosaics that would zoom in and out well. Check out the Starry Night sample on the web site! HUGE! Ah! Found the example!!! http://www.pixelpops.com/videoproduc...-3dphoto.shtml The mosaic piece is close to the end, around 3m10s (no time indicator on the flash player so can't be precise). __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 13th, 2007, 05:41 PM	#15
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Thanks Ian, I actually HAVE andrea mosaic, but had trouble with it! I'll give it another go!