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Todd Mathews · December 9th, 2007, 12:32 PM

After using a trial version of Vegas 8.0 / Premier CS3 I have decided to go with Vegas. I found it much more intuitive and my needs are fairly simple. I went to the B&H website and can buy the package for 500 OR buy Vegas 6 for 99 and then buy the Vegas 8.0 upgrade for 99.... total 198. What am I missing here? Lack of future upgrade paths? This is even way cheaper than academic pricing. I want to avoid the "If it sounds to good to be true..."

Colin Sato · December 9th, 2007, 01:26 PM

This is a very common path to Vegas 8 and the same one I used, although I did use 6 for a year before doing it.

Joseph Hutson · December 9th, 2007, 01:36 PM

How long until retailers or Sony for that matter realize what people do in a case like that that?

People could make a living selling those kind of things, and make a couple hundred bucks on eBay!

Of course they wouldn't tell people how they buy the software so cheap.

Chris Barcellos · December 9th, 2007, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph Hutson

How long until retailers or Sony for that matter realize what people do in a case like that that?

They are all aware.. It has been around for years. 6 comes with a disk only, no box or documentation, except what on .pdf on disk. BH, who sells a lot of camera, probably made a deal with Vegas to sell that version as entry for camera users into this level of editing. Sony is happy to get pro level users using the software.

The Upgrade comes with a download....box, I think for additional dollars. Early adopter had to pay more. I went 6 to 7 for $150, and did order the box. When 8 came out, I bought it early by upgrade from Sony by download at $150.00. So this is common expectation. Retailers depend on walkins, while these download upgrade situation are for regular users who have been or will become regular users of Vegas, an expectation in the software business.

Giroud Francois · December 9th, 2007, 01:47 PM

this is a counter productive behavior from editor, letting users believe that software cost nothing, and the ultimate solution is getting it for free.
After all if you can get it for 500 or 200 and it make no difference for the editor, getting it for free should not hurt them either.
It is the same when you fly in a plane. Just ask the next seat how much he pays for his ticket and be ready for a surprise...

James Eaton · December 9th, 2007, 01:52 PM

I believe the $99 version is Vegas-only, no DVDA. I'm sure others will corrrect me if that is not the case. Thx...

Jeff Harper · December 10th, 2007, 12:26 AM

I imagine that the vast majority of software buyers are not interconnected as we are. Therefore, the majority of buyers pay full price. The number of people buying old versions and upgrading cheaply is likely insignificant.

Vegas is still a second tier program and Final Cut is only growing more and more popular as Macs gain in popularity, so it is more important at this point for Vegas to infiltrate the market than for them to worry about losing a "few" dollars on a relatively few sales.

I would suspect Sony knows full well people do this and are glad of it.

Chris Barcellos · December 10th, 2007, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Eaton

I believe the $99 version is Vegas-only, no DVDA. I'm sure others will corrrect me if that is not the case. Thx...

This is not my experience. My original 6 I think was Vegas only, but the upgrades 7 and 8 included latest versions of DVD Architect.

Gerry Gallegos · December 10th, 2007, 12:20 PM

even with the more inexpensive paths to (legit) ownership, I decided to go ahead and purchased the boxed package for the simple fact that you do get more "goodies" by this method , not to mention I got a package (from sponsor seller) with free VASST training videos 1,2,3 and 8, which after watching has made me feel that they are worth every penny in their retail price, its the ultimate owners manual. and after you add up the price of all the "goodies" its cheaper this way, you are just making a commitment to get more at once, and you have a better upgrade path. I cant recommend the VASST training videos enough, they made ownership worth it, to some one like me that hates to read manuals and learns better from watching some one else do it and explain as they are doing the functions. not to mention the inclusion of DVDA.

Just my 2cents.

Ron Wilber · December 10th, 2007, 02:10 PM

dudes this sounds good, where can I buy a copy of vegas 6?

Chris Barcellos · December 10th, 2007, 02:14 PM

BH Photo. Order on line.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_Editing.html

Be sure to confirm availability of upgrade as Sony before you go this route.

Ron Wilber · December 10th, 2007, 05:02 PM

cool thanks!

Sam Houchins II · December 10th, 2007, 06:25 PM

Just seconding the post above... I've bought and am using this BH $99 V8 upgrade from 6, and it includes DVDA Pro 4.5

Alan Henderson · December 12th, 2007, 03:51 PM

Sony sells the same upgrade for $234.00.

alan

Todd Mathews · December 16th, 2007, 09:24 AM

Okay guys it did work. Got the vegas 6 and the pro 8 upgrade. The only hiccup is I run XP x64 and had installation problems. Vegas 6 installed fine but when I went to install the 8 upgrade it needs .net framework 3.0 which by default will try to install the 32bit version which will kick you out of the intall program. Now instead of going to windows website and trying to find the program you need, I just realized you can probably browse the disk and find it. Then it installed fine..

December 9th, 2007, 12:32 PM	#1
Todd Mathews New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sedona, AZ Posts: 18	Price too good? After using a trial version of Vegas 8.0 / Premier CS3 I have decided to go with Vegas. I found it much more intuitive and my needs are fairly simple. I went to the B&H website and can buy the package for 500 OR buy Vegas 6 for 99 and then buy the Vegas 8.0 upgrade for 99.... total 198. What am I missing here? Lack of future upgrade paths? This is even way cheaper than academic pricing. I want to avoid the "If it sounds to good to be true..."

December 9th, 2007, 01:52 PM	#6
James Eaton Tourist Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3	Vegas on the cheap I believe the $99 version is Vegas-only, no DVDA. I'm sure others will corrrect me if that is not the case. Thx...

December 10th, 2007, 12:20 PM	#9
Gerry Gallegos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 262	V8 even with the more inexpensive paths to (legit) ownership, I decided to go ahead and purchased the boxed package for the simple fact that you do get more "goodies" by this method , not to mention I got a package (from sponsor seller) with free VASST training videos 1,2,3 and 8, which after watching has made me feel that they are worth every penny in their retail price, its the ultimate owners manual. and after you add up the price of all the "goodies" its cheaper this way, you are just making a commitment to get more at once, and you have a better upgrade path. I cant recommend the VASST training videos enough, they made ownership worth it, to some one like me that hates to read manuals and learns better from watching some one else do it and explain as they are doing the functions. not to mention the inclusion of DVDA. Just my 2cents.

December 10th, 2007, 02:14 PM	#11
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	BH Photo. Order on line. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_Editing.html Be sure to confirm availability of upgrade as Sony before you go this route. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

December 10th, 2007, 06:25 PM	#13
Sam Houchins II Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 282	DVDA included Just seconding the post above... I've bought and am using this BH $99 V8 upgrade from 6, and it includes DVDA Pro 4.5

December 9th, 2007, 01:26 PM	#2
Colin Sato Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 85	This is a very common path to Vegas 8 and the same one I used, although I did use 6 for a year before doing it.

December 9th, 2007, 01:36 PM	#3
Joseph Hutson Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Claremore, Oklahoma Posts: 131	How long until retailers or Sony for that matter realize what people do in a case like that that? People could make a living selling those kind of things, and make a couple hundred bucks on eBay! Of course they wouldn't tell people how they buy the software so cheap.

December 9th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#5
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	this is a counter productive behavior from editor, letting users believe that software cost nothing, and the ultimate solution is getting it for free. After all if you can get it for 500 or 200 and it make no difference for the editor, getting it for free should not hurt them either. It is the same when you fly in a plane. Just ask the next seat how much he pays for his ticket and be ready for a surprise...

December 10th, 2007, 12:26 AM	#7
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I imagine that the vast majority of software buyers are not interconnected as we are. Therefore, the majority of buyers pay full price. The number of people buying old versions and upgrading cheaply is likely insignificant. Vegas is still a second tier program and Final Cut is only growing more and more popular as Macs gain in popularity, so it is more important at this point for Vegas to infiltrate the market than for them to worry about losing a "few" dollars on a relatively few sales. I would suspect Sony knows full well people do this and are glad of it.

December 10th, 2007, 02:10 PM	#10
Ron Wilber Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 98	dudes this sounds good, where can I buy a copy of vegas 6?

December 10th, 2007, 05:02 PM	#12
Ron Wilber Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 98	cool thanks!

December 12th, 2007, 03:51 PM	#14
Alan Henderson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 96	Sony sells the same upgrade for $234.00. alan

December 16th, 2007, 09:24 AM	#15
Todd Mathews New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sedona, AZ Posts: 18	it worked... sort of Okay guys it did work. Got the vegas 6 and the pro 8 upgrade. The only hiccup is I run XP x64 and had installation problems. Vegas 6 installed fine but when I went to install the 8 upgrade it needs .net framework 3.0 which by default will try to install the 32bit version which will kick you out of the intall program. Now instead of going to windows website and trying to find the program you need, I just realized you can probably browse the disk and find it. Then it installed fine..