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David Rice · September 21st, 2007, 06:47 PM

Too many crashes in pro 8, I'm going back to 7d.

Hugh Mobley · September 21st, 2007, 07:16 PM

I am using both, When I get so PO'd at 8 I start using 7 again,

Mark Kovalcson · September 21st, 2007, 07:27 PM

I found it kept crashing when I was using the new pro titler.

Is it unstable throughout?

Perrone Ford · September 21st, 2007, 07:56 PM

Interesting. I haven't had any crashes at all. I haven't tried the titler yet though.

David Rice · September 21st, 2007, 08:04 PM

Pro 8 doesn't like some of my 6 & 7 files. I have had crashes on the timeline, and while rendering mpeg files. Pro 8 also crashed when I tried capturing from my Canon Hv20 in DV mode.

I'll try it again after the next update.......

George Judds · September 22nd, 2007, 03:17 AM

This seems a bit strange to me, I have used Vegas 8 almost every day since the 1st day it was release and have used the ProType Titling to do some very difficult animation schemes - and NOT once has Vegas 8 nor DVD Architect 4.5 ever encountered a glitch, nor has it ever quit in the middle of a project, not even during a 40min project I was working on. Most of the time, I work in HD and still have had no problems with Vegas 8. I wouldn’t even consider going back to 7, although 7 was great too.

Maybe I got one of their bug free copies... ;)

Good luck!

Mark Kovalcson · September 22nd, 2007, 04:33 AM

Is anyone else running it on Windows 2003 Server? I realize it is not on the supported OS list, but I have been running Vegas 5 on my 2003 very reliably on my Server laptop for quite some time.

On the good side the MainConcepts MP4 codec appears to be very good. I assume this is the AVC H.264 codec that they included which has iPod video presets. I'll test it on my wife's iPod Video soon. What I have rendered with it so far looks very clean and detailed.

The new AppleTV only supports a single 720p HD standard and I didn't see a preset for that.

It is interesting that it supports FLAC. I've been using Apple's Lossless codec on my iTunes, but FLAC seems to be getting lots of generic support.

I also haven't seen it crash "yet" while playing with 3D composting in the two days I've had it installed. As always installing the new version didn't uninstall my previous version so there is fall back.

Vincent Croce · September 22nd, 2007, 08:24 AM

Been running V8 since it came out and not a hiccup with any of it. Used the titler, rendered, opened v6 and v7 projects with it and it is rock solid for me.
Haven't tried it on Vista yet, so I may find problems there...

Jack Zhang · September 22nd, 2007, 08:28 AM

Everyone, try the dynamic RAM to 0MB and rendering threads to 1 trick before you uninstall. If it still crashes, then Vegas 8 sure is buggy.

George Judds · September 22nd, 2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent Croce

Been running V8 since it came out and not a hiccup with any of it. Used the titler, rendered, opened v6 and v7 projects with it and it is rock solid for me.
Haven't tried it on Vista yet, so I may find problems there...

I'm running Vegas 8 on Vista x64 Ultimate Edition, Intel Quad-Core, smooooth as silk! Haven't and a single problem, as of yet, almost 2 weeks now. Just finished HDV from timeline back to tape, no errors. purrfect ;)

Ian Stark · September 24th, 2007, 12:23 PM

Likewise, to echo the non-crashers, been running it since day one with no problems. XP Pro SP2, Quadcore, 2Gb.

BUT I really do not like the way the new titler flashes at me every time I do something. What's all that about? And I'm convinced the envelopes are a bit dodgy. Just added opacity keyframes as the last 'effect' in a stack (after h/blur and y offset) but damned if it works. No problem if I put the opacity envelope in first though. Sounds wrong to me.

Paul Fierlinger · September 24th, 2007, 12:52 PM

My experience with VP8 is odd... I had a large number of crashes during the first week or so; when I scrubbed fast, clicked quickly through tabs, or opened up far apart regions within a 10 minute timeline. Then, over the period of less than a week,the crashes diminished and dwindled down to none and there it remains, at zero.

There is nothing I have changed in my way of working since V 6 through 7e; in my settings, in my timelines -- except to add new clips every day. It's as if the new Vegas needed a run-in breaking period.

Ian Stark · September 24th, 2007, 12:56 PM

Well would you believe it. Two minutes after I put up the last post the bloody thing crashed on me - while I was using the titler!!!! First time! Ha! Should learn not to speak too soon.

Roll on 8.0a . . .

Hugh Mobley · September 24th, 2007, 01:03 PM

for now I give up, can't get V8 (on my laptop) to run after I save cineform avi to veg. file then open, or try, to open again, Will use V7e until sony gets it together. I have never seen so many problems, yet some, including my office computer, seem to ok for the time being.

Ian Stark · September 25th, 2007, 04:52 AM

OK, that's it for the new titler.

Having been pleased with the apparent stability of v8 I've just found the courage to use it for some serious (ie paid) work and thought I'd take the titler out for a proper spin. Falls over pretty much everytime I've tried to do anything involving more than a couple of envelopes. Sigh . . .

Back to After Effects for my titles until they sort this out. In fact, I haven't been hugely impressed with the titler anyway. It's OK. But far from great. And now I find it's buggy. I may stay with AE regardless. Shame.

September 21st, 2007, 06:47 PM	#1
David Rice Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sitka Alaska Posts: 470	Going back to 7d. Too many crashes in pro 8, I'm going back to 7d.

September 21st, 2007, 07:16 PM	#2
Hugh Mobley Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Placentia, Calif Posts: 549	I am using both, When I get so PO'd at 8 I start using 7 again, __________________ Hugh Mobley www.petplanetvideos.com http://exposureroom.com/members/hmobley.aspx/

September 22nd, 2007, 03:17 AM	#6
George Judds New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Decatur, IL. Posts: 5	Going back to 7d. This seems a bit strange to me, I have used Vegas 8 almost every day since the 1st day it was release and have used the ProType Titling to do some very difficult animation schemes - and NOT once has Vegas 8 nor DVD Architect 4.5 ever encountered a glitch, nor has it ever quit in the middle of a project, not even during a 40min project I was working on. Most of the time, I work in HD and still have had no problems with Vegas 8. I wouldn’t even consider going back to 7, although 7 was great too. Maybe I got one of their bug free copies... ;) Good luck!

September 22nd, 2007, 08:24 AM	#8
Vincent Croce Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 263	Been running V8 since it came out and not a hiccup with any of it. Used the titler, rendered, opened v6 and v7 projects with it and it is rock solid for me. Haven't tried it on Vista yet, so I may find problems there... __________________ Vin First Take Studios

September 24th, 2007, 12:23 PM	#11
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Likewise, to echo the non-crashers, been running it since day one with no problems. XP Pro SP2, Quadcore, 2Gb. BUT I really do not like the way the new titler flashes at me every time I do something. What's all that about? And I'm convinced the envelopes are a bit dodgy. Just added opacity keyframes as the last 'effect' in a stack (after h/blur and y offset) but damned if it works. No problem if I put the opacity envelope in first though. Sounds wrong to me. __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

September 21st, 2007, 07:27 PM	#3
Mark Kovalcson New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 8	I found it kept crashing when I was using the new pro titler. Is it unstable throughout?

September 21st, 2007, 07:56 PM	#4
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Interesting. I haven't had any crashes at all. I haven't tried the titler yet though.

September 21st, 2007, 08:04 PM	#5
David Rice Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sitka Alaska Posts: 470	Pro 8 doesn't like some of my 6 & 7 files. I have had crashes on the timeline, and while rendering mpeg files. Pro 8 also crashed when I tried capturing from my Canon Hv20 in DV mode. I'll try it again after the next update.......

September 22nd, 2007, 04:33 AM	#7
Mark Kovalcson New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 8	Is anyone else running it on Windows 2003 Server? I realize it is not on the supported OS list, but I have been running Vegas 5 on my 2003 very reliably on my Server laptop for quite some time. On the good side the MainConcepts MP4 codec appears to be very good. I assume this is the AVC H.264 codec that they included which has iPod video presets. I'll test it on my wife's iPod Video soon. What I have rendered with it so far looks very clean and detailed. The new AppleTV only supports a single 720p HD standard and I didn't see a preset for that. It is interesting that it supports FLAC. I've been using Apple's Lossless codec on my iTunes, but FLAC seems to be getting lots of generic support. I also haven't seen it crash "yet" while playing with 3D composting in the two days I've had it installed. As always installing the new version didn't uninstall my previous version so there is fall back.

September 22nd, 2007, 08:28 AM	#9
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Everyone, try the dynamic RAM to 0MB and rendering threads to 1 trick before you uninstall. If it still crashes, then Vegas 8 sure is buggy.

September 24th, 2007, 12:52 PM	#12
Paul Fierlinger Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wynnewood, Pennsylvania Posts: 355	My experience with VP8 is odd... I had a large number of crashes during the first week or so; when I scrubbed fast, clicked quickly through tabs, or opened up far apart regions within a 10 minute timeline. Then, over the period of less than a week,the crashes diminished and dwindled down to none and there it remains, at zero. There is nothing I have changed in my way of working since V 6 through 7e; in my settings, in my timelines -- except to add new clips every day. It's as if the new Vegas needed a run-in breaking period. __________________ Paul

September 24th, 2007, 12:56 PM	#13
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Well would you believe it. Two minutes after I put up the last post the bloody thing crashed on me - while I was using the titler!!!! First time! Ha! Should learn not to speak too soon. Roll on 8.0a . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

September 24th, 2007, 01:03 PM	#14
Hugh Mobley Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Placentia, Calif Posts: 549	for now I give up, can't get V8 (on my laptop) to run after I save cineform avi to veg. file then open, or try, to open again, Will use V7e until sony gets it together. I have never seen so many problems, yet some, including my office computer, seem to ok for the time being. __________________ Hugh Mobley www.petplanetvideos.com http://exposureroom.com/members/hmobley.aspx/

September 25th, 2007, 04:52 AM	#15
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	OK, that's it for the new titler. Having been pleased with the apparent stability of v8 I've just found the courage to use it for some serious (ie paid) work and thought I'd take the titler out for a proper spin. Falls over pretty much everytime I've tried to do anything involving more than a couple of envelopes. Sigh . . . Back to After Effects for my titles until they sort this out. In fact, I haven't been hugely impressed with the titler anyway. It's OK. But far from great. And now I find it's buggy. I may stay with AE regardless. Shame. __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk