can Vegas do a nice job a deinterlacing? at DVinfo.net

Larry Secrest · September 11th, 2007, 09:32 AM

In other words, does the software From DVFILMAKER do a nice job?
Would you rely on what Vegas does to deinterlace a movie meant to go to DVD productions and maybe film out?

Sean Skube · September 11th, 2007, 01:27 PM

so far I don't have any complaints. But I only use it once in a while.

Glenn Chan · September 11th, 2007, 02:01 PM

The de-interlace methods in Vegas are the simplest (and not the best) methods for de-interlacing.

Mike Crash's filter should do a slightly better job.
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52097

DV filmmaker likely does a better job (though I haven't compared). The best de-interlacers do motion compensation and are either pretty slow or pretty expensive (e.g. they are hardware-accelerated, like the Teranex standards conversion boxes).

Joe Busch · September 11th, 2007, 04:15 PM

If you want plain 60i to 30p deinterlacing, setting your project settings to Progressive Scan, and Interpolate Fields... and then preview settings to Preview Auto/Half or Good Full seems to do a good job for me... maybe there are better methods though...

Brian Mitchell Warshawsky · September 11th, 2007, 04:26 PM

Glenn,

Do you know how Mike Crash's de-interlace filter compares to VASST's Celluloid 24P script?

Brian

Daniel Alexander · September 11th, 2007, 06:07 PM

Joe, i wasn't aware that setting your preview settings had any affect on video being rendered from the timeline, is ths really the case or have i misread what you've wrote?

Glenn Chan · September 11th, 2007, 10:32 PM

Mike Crash's filter is free/donationware and can do a better job than Vegas.

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Do you know how Mike Crash's de-interlace filter compares to VASST's Celluloid 24P script?

It's like comparing apples and oranges?

One converts to 30p/25p. The other can convert from 60i to 24p (uses Vegas' deinterlacer / the Vegas engine I believe).

Celluloid does film looks (using the Vegas engine/filters).

Kris Bird · September 12th, 2007, 07:30 AM

Daniel, the timeline preview has no effect on render quality.

to preview the interpolated deinterlace in the timeline, set your preview to good or best .. (but it likely won't playback in realtime, my quad box doesn't)

Project settings does let you set 'render' quality, which needs to be Good or Best to do a proper interpolated deinterlace. Obviously always use Best.

Daniel Alexander · September 12th, 2007, 08:34 AM

Thanks Kris, was just making sure :)

Daniel Alexander · September 12th, 2007, 08:39 AM

Keeping on the subject of de-interlacing has anyone had any direct comparison between Mike Crash's de-interlace filter and red giants magic bullet suite in after effects? Personally i don't see much difference although i would love to hear some positive feedback from people who have, after i spent so much money on it

September 11th, 2007, 09:32 AM	#1
Larry Secrest Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 404	can Vegas do a nice job a deinterlacing? In other words, does the software From DVFILMAKER do a nice job? Would you rely on what Vegas does to deinterlace a movie meant to go to DVD productions and maybe film out?

September 11th, 2007, 01:27 PM	#2
Sean Skube Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 156	so far I don't have any complaints. But I only use it once in a while.

September 11th, 2007, 02:01 PM	#3
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	The de-interlace methods in Vegas are the simplest (and not the best) methods for de-interlacing. Mike Crash's filter should do a slightly better job. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52097 DV filmmaker likely does a better job (though I haven't compared). The best de-interlacers do motion compensation and are either pretty slow or pretty expensive (e.g. they are hardware-accelerated, like the Teranex standards conversion boxes).

September 11th, 2007, 04:15 PM	#4
Joe Busch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 398	If you want plain 60i to 30p deinterlacing, setting your project settings to Progressive Scan, and Interpolate Fields... and then preview settings to Preview Auto/Half or Good Full seems to do a good job for me... maybe there are better methods though...

September 11th, 2007, 04:26 PM	#5
Brian Mitchell Warshawsky Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 216	Glenn, Do you know how Mike Crash's de-interlace filter compares to VASST's Celluloid 24P script? Brian

September 11th, 2007, 06:07 PM	#6
Daniel Alexander Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 320	Joe, i wasn't aware that setting your preview settings had any affect on video being rendered from the timeline, is ths really the case or have i misread what you've wrote?

September 12th, 2007, 07:30 AM	#8
Kris Bird Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 173	Daniel, the timeline preview has no effect on render quality. to preview the interpolated deinterlace in the timeline, set your preview to good or best .. (but it likely won't playback in realtime, my quad box doesn't) Project settings does let you set 'render' quality, which needs to be Good or Best to do a proper interpolated deinterlace. Obviously always use Best.

September 12th, 2007, 08:34 AM	#9
Daniel Alexander Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 320	Thanks Kris, was just making sure :)

September 12th, 2007, 08:39 AM	#10
Daniel Alexander Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 320	Keeping on the subject of de-interlacing has anyone had any direct comparison between Mike Crash's de-interlace filter and red giants magic bullet suite in after effects? Personally i don't see much difference although i would love to hear some positive feedback from people who have, after i spent so much money on it