Ceremony with A1/DVX100 with Music

Gary Hanna · July 26th, 2007, 04:40 PM

Ahoy,

First wedding I shot with the A1 - although it's a mix of DVXs for the secondary cameras

I'm posting this here instead of the screening room since there was a recent thread on music in ceremonies, so I thought it may be relevant (hopefully no one minds)

Let me know your thoughts on the music - I kept it very low at -23 db, put a limiter filter at a ratio of 2 and -30 db and EQs it to mute the high end and boost the base. NOTE: It's low enough that built in Computer speakers really won't pick it up so if you could watch w/ headphones or if you have external speakers so you hear an accurate mix.

LINK: http://www.psynema.com/phillycrew/cl...0ebeda47a1ff1c

I kept it really short - the precessional is not included and the Ceremony is only ten minutes and you can scrub through the PhillyCrew flash player much more fluidly than YouTubes.

Also - I could use your help on the following -

1. Thoughts on keeping/ditching/remixing/changing music selections

2. Chuppah Cam - I didn't charge them for it but wanted to put one there for the hell of it - Unfortunately, the chuppah wasn't Camera Clamp compatable - branches were wired to the edges of the roof, so I couldn't clamp the center of the roof for a good angle and clamping the branches would've broken the brances, the only spot I could clamp to a SOLID frame was the corners of the roof, which obviously is a poor angle, on top of their being huge bouquets wired around my camera - I threw in a few usable shots, but let me know if you think I should keep them or ditch them - they're not terrible, but really do want to include some footage from the chuppah - luckily their kiss at the end was a good shot.

3. Back Camera - My 2nd operator really was off frame in the back (everyone else I knew and wanted was booked LOL) - so I had to zoom in and on top of that he was a bit out of focus/underexposed - let me know if you feel any shots could go as I could just cut to the static camera on the side.

Thanks

Zach Stewart · July 26th, 2007, 05:04 PM

Maybe its me....but your link doesn't work

Gary Hanna · July 26th, 2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach Stewart

Maybe its me....but your link doesn't work

Oops - sorry - just fixed it, thanks.

Zach Stewart · July 26th, 2007, 05:45 PM

I thought it was good. I know nothing of Jewish Ceremonies so it was interesting to watch. The music was very low, but at the same time it didn't distract and at times i found myself hearing it and liked it. It could possibly come up a bit but i think it works as is. The colors look great, but the Chuppah cam needs a little color correction to help it match. Nice location, great job on the audio (no fallout, wind, or peaks that i noticed), and good use of camera switching. I think the B & G will be pleased...good job

Peter Jefferson · July 26th, 2007, 09:50 PM

2. Chuppah Cam - I didn't charge them for it but wanted to put one there for the hell of it - Unfortunately, the chuppah wasn't Camera Clamp compatable - branches were wired to the edges of the roof, so I couldn't clamp the center of the roof for a good angle and clamping the branches would've broken the brances, the only spot I could clamp to a SOLID frame was the corners of the roof, which obviously is a poor angle, on top of their being huge bouquets wired around my camera - I threw in a few usable shots, but let me know if you think I should keep them or ditch them - they're not terrible, but really do want to include some footage from the chuppah - luckily their kiss at the end was a good shot.

((NEVER NEVER NEVER unles its a 2/3rd CCD liptsick cam with manual iris. Plant a mic, yes, but no camera in the Chuppah. This is the sacred element which should only cover the Rabbi, Bride and Groom. Not even the parents should go under it. And once its up, do not walk under it. Also if you have female staff, make sure they dont even try to touch the Rrabbi (as in shake his hand) when introduced. Just offer a slight bow in respect.))

3. Back Camera - My 2nd operator really was off frame in the back (everyone else I knew and wanted was booked LOL) - so I had to zoom in and on top of that he was a bit out of focus/underexposed - let me know if you feel any shots could go as I could just cut to the static camera on the side.

Static cam over the Rabbi's right shoulder is a safe one. Then shoot detail shots from the right of that camera. Be aware of the singer as the bride walks down the aisle as these guys are usually on the right of the Rabbi too...

I could go on, but my wife is busting me to go baby shopping right now..

Zach Stewart · July 27th, 2007, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Jefferson

I could go on, but my wife is busting me to go baby shopping right now..

I don't know about Aus, but this is illegal in the states (haha)

Gary Hanna · July 27th, 2007, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Jefferson

2. Chuppah Cam - I didn't charge them for it but wanted to put one there for the hell of it - Unfortunately, the chuppah wasn't Camera Clamp compatable - branches were wired to the edges of the roof, so I couldn't clamp the center of the roof for a good angle and clamping the branches would've broken the brances, the only spot I could clamp to a SOLID frame was the corners of the roof, which obviously is a poor angle, on top of their being huge bouquets wired around my camera - I threw in a few usable shots, but let me know if you think I should keep them or ditch them - they're not terrible, but really do want to include some footage from the chuppah - luckily their kiss at the end was a good shot.

((NEVER NEVER NEVER unles its a 2/3rd CCD liptsick cam with manual iris. Plant a mic, yes, but no camera in the Chuppah. This is the sacred element which should only cover the Rabbi, Bride and Groom. Not even the parents should go under it. And once its up, do not walk under it. Also if you have female staff, make sure they dont even try to touch the Rrabbi (as in shake his hand) when introduced. Just offer a slight bow in respect.))

3. Back Camera - My 2nd operator really was off frame in the back (everyone else I knew and wanted was booked LOL) - so I had to zoom in and on top of that he was a bit out of focus/underexposed - let me know if you feel any shots could go as I could just cut to the static camera on the side.

Static cam over the Rabbi's right shoulder is a safe one. Then shoot detail shots from the right of that camera. Be aware of the singer as the bride walks down the aisle as these guys are usually on the right of the Rabbi too...

I could go on, but my wife is busting me to go baby shopping right now..

???

What???

Chuppah cams are very common. This wasn't an orthodox wedding btw, so it's pretty lax.

July 26th, 2007, 04:40 PM	#1
Gary Hanna Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United States Posts: 137	Ceremony with A1/DVX100 with Music - THOUGHTS? Ahoy, First wedding I shot with the A1 - although it's a mix of DVXs for the secondary cameras I'm posting this here instead of the screening room since there was a recent thread on music in ceremonies, so I thought it may be relevant (hopefully no one minds) Let me know your thoughts on the music - I kept it very low at -23 db, put a limiter filter at a ratio of 2 and -30 db and EQs it to mute the high end and boost the base. NOTE: It's low enough that built in Computer speakers really won't pick it up so if you could watch w/ headphones or if you have external speakers so you hear an accurate mix. LINK: http://www.psynema.com/phillycrew/cl...0ebeda47a1ff1c I kept it really short - the precessional is not included and the Ceremony is only ten minutes and you can scrub through the PhillyCrew flash player much more fluidly than YouTubes. Also - I could use your help on the following - 1. Thoughts on keeping/ditching/remixing/changing music selections 2. Chuppah Cam - I didn't charge them for it but wanted to put one there for the hell of it - Unfortunately, the chuppah wasn't Camera Clamp compatable - branches were wired to the edges of the roof, so I couldn't clamp the center of the roof for a good angle and clamping the branches would've broken the brances, the only spot I could clamp to a SOLID frame was the corners of the roof, which obviously is a poor angle, on top of their being huge bouquets wired around my camera - I threw in a few usable shots, but let me know if you think I should keep them or ditch them - they're not terrible, but really do want to include some footage from the chuppah - luckily their kiss at the end was a good shot. 3. Back Camera - My 2nd operator really was off frame in the back (everyone else I knew and wanted was booked LOL) - so I had to zoom in and on top of that he was a bit out of focus/underexposed - let me know if you feel any shots could go as I could just cut to the static camera on the side. Thanks Last edited by Gary Hanna; July 26th, 2007 at 05:17 PM.

July 26th, 2007, 05:04 PM	#2
Zach Stewart Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 176	Maybe its me....but your link doesn't work

July 26th, 2007, 05:45 PM	#4
Zach Stewart Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 176	I thought it was good. I know nothing of Jewish Ceremonies so it was interesting to watch. The music was very low, but at the same time it didn't distract and at times i found myself hearing it and liked it. It could possibly come up a bit but i think it works as is. The colors look great, but the Chuppah cam needs a little color correction to help it match. Nice location, great job on the audio (no fallout, wind, or peaks that i noticed), and good use of camera switching. I think the B & G will be pleased...good job

July 26th, 2007, 09:50 PM	#5
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	2. Chuppah Cam - I didn't charge them for it but wanted to put one there for the hell of it - Unfortunately, the chuppah wasn't Camera Clamp compatable - branches were wired to the edges of the roof, so I couldn't clamp the center of the roof for a good angle and clamping the branches would've broken the brances, the only spot I could clamp to a SOLID frame was the corners of the roof, which obviously is a poor angle, on top of their being huge bouquets wired around my camera - I threw in a few usable shots, but let me know if you think I should keep them or ditch them - they're not terrible, but really do want to include some footage from the chuppah - luckily their kiss at the end was a good shot. ((NEVER NEVER NEVER unles its a 2/3rd CCD liptsick cam with manual iris. Plant a mic, yes, but no camera in the Chuppah. This is the sacred element which should only cover the Rabbi, Bride and Groom. Not even the parents should go under it. And once its up, do not walk under it. Also if you have female staff, make sure they dont even try to touch the Rrabbi (as in shake his hand) when introduced. Just offer a slight bow in respect.)) 3. Back Camera - My 2nd operator really was off frame in the back (everyone else I knew and wanted was booked LOL) - so I had to zoom in and on top of that he was a bit out of focus/underexposed - let me know if you feel any shots could go as I could just cut to the static camera on the side. Static cam over the Rabbi's right shoulder is a safe one. Then shoot detail shots from the right of that camera. Be aware of the singer as the bride walks down the aisle as these guys are usually on the right of the Rabbi too... I could go on, but my wife is busting me to go baby shopping right now..