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June 22nd, 2007, 08:17 PM | #1 |
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New Demo Complete
Hey all,
I posted a early version of a demo I did for a company I do work for here in Montreal. It's complete now. Thanks to all for the feedback. Feel free to beat me up about the final version. I can't change it now, but comments are always helpful for my work in general. http://tinyurl.com/37e4d9 Cheers, Vito |
July 1st, 2007, 04:58 PM | #2 |
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+ Original style overall. Funky & fun but not irreverent. Definitely not run-of-the-mill "cinematic wedding". :)
- I think it was the very first shot that had the bride coming down the aisle or through the lobby or something (offset 1:34). It looked like it could use color correction - it just didn't seem to match with the look of the rest of the demo, and didn't contrast enough to seem like it was intentional. - There were also a few transitions where a flash of golden color was used to transition between shots that were both using the slightly desaturated look. I just thought it looked a bit odd to see a face fade in as goldish yellow and then desaturate... Offset 02:25 or so. Hope this helps, -- Elliot |
July 2nd, 2007, 03:22 AM | #3 |
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Hey Vito,
To be honest, I didn't like the split screens, personally I just don't like them in general on wedding videos, although many guys use them. However, overall I loved it, great sense of flow to it, very, very nice. Keep up the good work! |
July 2nd, 2007, 09:13 AM | #4 |
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Hey Guys
Thanks for the feedback. It's always nice to get some reactions from fellow videographers to get a sense of what does and doesn't work. Alan, while I actually don't mind split screens, though I don't use them much, in this demo they were used purposely to emphasize that we were using two cameras. Our clientele finds two cameras a tough sell, and we're trying to move there more and more. Apparently, it's working, according to the response, which is great. Thanks, Vito |
July 2nd, 2007, 09:12 PM | #5 |
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Great work! Looks good. I like the overall feel of the video. What were your settings for the playback for window size. I shoot in 16x9 but cant seem to get the right size for playback. Thanks, John |
July 2nd, 2007, 09:19 PM | #6 |
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Hi John,
Thanks for checking it out. I used a calculator to give me a quick frame size. From 1920X1080 I divided down by four to get 480X270. I used Sorenson Squeeze v.4.3 to encode to wmv files. Cheers, Vito |
July 3rd, 2007, 06:44 AM | #7 |
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Really enjoyed it Vito...
How refreshing....and you had a great bride to work with too! It would be really interesting if you could give a quick run through of the various techniques you've used in post...I for one would learn a lot. As a showcase of the range of things you can do, and the value of a two-camera shoot, it works really well. Has it been a good tool yet to persuade other couples to say 'yes' to a two-camera set-up? I'm sure the couple featured are delighted with the end product - and that's what's important! Sean
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That's great news...a happy couple and you've got extra bookings - that's what I call a result.
The answer is 'seeing is believing' - once a couple can 'see' the value that a second camera gives - then how can they settle for second best? I (and I'm sure others) would be interested in both - a. the effects you've applied and b. how you've approached the edit. It's quality work - and you've clearly put a great deal of time and effort into it. And that shows. Cheers, Sean
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July 3rd, 2007, 08:00 AM | #10 |
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Looooooved that demo!
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Okay, Sean. Here we go.
First, we knew that we wanted to use this video for a demo. I shoot with a Z1, and we got a second shooter with an FX1. We ended up with a fair amount of footage, perhaps 7 hours, which was plenty. Since the couple had ordered a video, I started by first editing that for them. I always capture complete tapes. I don't log clips beforehand, as I find it unnecessary in this age of cheap hard drives, and I don't like the extra wear and tear on our decks/cameras. I put the full clips on the timeline, and start cutting down. This technique works very well for projects that are generally chronological, such as a wedding. As I rough cut, I try to put aside clips to use for a highlights section. I like to include a good portion of clips in the highlights that won't be seen in the main video, so that it's not a straight repeat. After the rough cut is done, I add music to sections that demand it (groom and bride's preparations, photo shoot, etc), then do a fine edit to the music. I also make the ceremony a complete section, audio mix, etc, and do the same to the reception. Then I colour correct the entire video as needed. Finally, I copy my sequence, remove all the audio, and put the song in for the highlights. I remove all clips that I don't want to have in the highlights, and add in the ones that I had put aside earlier. I edit that to the music. Then choose a group of transitions that I think might work well for the music and footage. I add those where needed. Finally, I try to find a 'look' that could look nice to set the highlights off from the rest of the video. A colour effect (B&W, Sepia), or Bleach Bypass, Film Effect, whatever. Sometimes, as in the demo you looked at, this will be a stack of four or five layers to get a desired look. For example, the demo used a stack of (for much of it): 1. Colour correction 2. Bleach bypass 3. Film Grain 4. Film damage 5. Vignette from bottom to top. Whew! That's a quick description of what I do. I've left a lot out, as the edit process is quick a bit more complicated than that, but you get the idea. The whole edit takes me about 25 hours. For this demo, I took the highlights that I had done as a starting point, then rearraged/added/removed material to suit the purpose of the demo. I have no idea if this process resembles what others do, but it works for me! Cheers, Vito |
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Thanks, Justine! Means a lot to get nice feedback.
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Vito:
Another question. You have what appears to be a quick cut of film leader in the video. I have been looking for something like this as a plug in. Is this a plug in you used? Thanks, John |
July 10th, 2007, 04:46 PM | #14 |
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Hi John,
Actually, it's small pieces of an academy leader that I downloaded from archive.org. You can download the same leader in various formats here: http://www.archive.org/details/Countdow1960 The archives there are amazing. Tons of movies, clips, whatever, much of it public domain or royalty free. I've found some great stuff there. |
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Vito:
Fantastic! Just what I was looking for. Thanks, John |
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