how to make the whites 'glow' at DVinfo.net

Nathan Quattrini · June 12th, 2007, 07:52 AM

Its a very very common effect in wedding videos, but I don't know how its done.
It seems to make the whites glow a heavenly non-offensive glow, especially so in direct sunlight and shots of the bride in her white dress. How is it accomplished in post?

Douglas Villalba · June 12th, 2007, 08:32 AM

I use a free one. You can do a Google search for TOO BIG TOO SOON.
I think that's the name. I am capturing at the moment and I can't check.

Nathan Quattrini · June 12th, 2007, 08:34 AM

is that a plugin? For what program if it is?

Douglas Villalba · June 12th, 2007, 09:01 AM

For Final Cut Pro

John Kokkinakis · June 12th, 2007, 09:08 AM

You can do it in After Effects also.The program has already glow effects in it.

Another trick for glowing/soft focus effect, is the following.

Make two layers with the same footage.
Blur the lower layer by whatever percentage you like.

Lower the top layer's opacity by whatever percentage you like.

Voila !!!

Nathan Quattrini · June 12th, 2007, 09:11 AM

I may have to try after effects...I use all adobe stuff. Someone mentioned bumping up the whites in another thread...is that with levels?

Also is there a way to make a title (text) glow in Premiere? I have a complex set up already to reveal the text so I don`t want to rebuild it in AE. I want it to reveal and glow

John Kokkinakis · June 12th, 2007, 09:19 AM

You can do that, but i'm not sure it's the effect you want.

Just by bumping up the whites does not give you the soft glow i understand you are looking for.

However you can try that, in combination whith the method i mentioned in my previous post.

Nathan Quattrini · June 12th, 2007, 09:30 AM

i`m getting it slowly...is there a way i can use 'alpha glow' to my advantage? It doesn't seem to do anything when applied...but its setup screen looks good....

Richard Wakefield · June 12th, 2007, 09:42 AM

The Alpha Glow effect adds color around the edges of a masked alpha channel.

this is not what you want.

IMO, 'Glow Effect' in AE is fantastic (for colours, or for whites, you make the choice), and also the 'white diffusion' aspect of Magic Bullet (or another free plugin if you don't have that)

p.s. looking forward to P.J.'s usual dig at people who use effects like this.. u have been warned :)

Vito DeFilippo · June 12th, 2007, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wakefield

p.s. looking forward to P.J.'s usual dig at people who use effects like this.. u have been warned :)

Who? You mean Peter? Come on...he's a pussycat, hehe...

Neil Fitchett · June 12th, 2007, 01:04 PM

Also is there a way to make a title (text) glow in Premiere? I have a complex set up already to reveal the text so I don`t want to rebuild it in AE. I want it to reveal and glow

There is a nice plug in called "Luce" that sends out light beams from text. Works with Adobe Premiere and Premiere Elements. And it's free! It's available at the following link.

http://amicoperry.altervista.org/luce/main.html

Michael W. Niece · June 14th, 2007, 08:09 AM

One method I tried is have two layers of the text (duplicate the first one if it's animated, etc.). On the lower layer text just add a simple gaussian blur to it and adjust as needed.

-Michael

Peter Jefferson · June 14th, 2007, 09:11 AM

go grab a Trapcode plugin called Shine.. its for AE
55mm is also a good one.. i use it for Photoshop, but its also AE compatible..

its better than Vegas glow (even though Vegas glow is one of the best on the planet) and any other glow filter out there, but u CAN also do this without any special filters.. using the compositing method explained in the above post, BUT mess with opacities and liminance levels while ur at it..

Im fine with Glow filters Richard, its the "soft focus" filters which piss me off.. sorry couldnt resist..

Dawn Brennan · June 14th, 2007, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Fitchett

There is a nice plug in called "Luce" that sends out light beams from text. Works with Adobe Premiere and Premiere Elements. And it's free! It's available at the following link.

http://amicoperry.altervista.org/luce/main.html

Anybody know of a plug in like this for Vegas?

Elliot Lee · June 14th, 2007, 10:14 PM

I think the Final Cut plugins Douglas meant to refer to were "Too Much Too Soon". You can get them at http://mattias.nu/plugins/

The Final Cut plugin I've used for something similar to the "white glow" effect is Silk & Fog available for free at http://www.chv-plugins.com/ (click on the downloads link, and then scroll down through the FxScript plugins section). That Silk & Fog filter in Silk mode does something very similar to what I think you're wanting. It won't help in Premiere but at least we have a point of reference for how to do this ;-)

Hope this helps,
-- Elliot

June 12th, 2007, 07:52 AM	#1
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	how to make the whites 'glow' Its a very very common effect in wedding videos, but I don't know how its done. It seems to make the whites glow a heavenly non-offensive glow, especially so in direct sunlight and shots of the bride in her white dress. How is it accomplished in post? __________________ Cinematography Site

June 12th, 2007, 08:32 AM	#2
Douglas Villalba Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 479	I use a free one. You can do a Google search for TOO BIG TOO SOON. I think that's the name. I am capturing at the moment and I can't check. __________________ Douglas Villalba - director/cinematographer/editor Miami, Florida, USA - www.DVtvPRODUCTIONS.com

June 12th, 2007, 08:34 AM	#3
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	is that a plugin? For what program if it is? __________________ Cinematography Site

June 12th, 2007, 09:01 AM	#4
Douglas Villalba Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 479	For Final Cut Pro __________________ Douglas Villalba - director/cinematographer/editor Miami, Florida, USA - www.DVtvPRODUCTIONS.com

June 12th, 2007, 09:11 AM	#6
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	I may have to try after effects...I use all adobe stuff. Someone mentioned bumping up the whites in another thread...is that with levels? Also is there a way to make a title (text) glow in Premiere? I have a complex set up already to reveal the text so I don`t want to rebuild it in AE. I want it to reveal and glow __________________ Cinematography Site

June 12th, 2007, 09:08 AM	#5
John Kokkinakis New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Iraklion, Greece Posts: 7	You can do it in After Effects also.The program has already glow effects in it. Another trick for glowing/soft focus effect, is the following. Make two layers with the same footage. Blur the lower layer by whatever percentage you like. Lower the top layer's opacity by whatever percentage you like. Voila !!!

June 12th, 2007, 09:19 AM	#7
John Kokkinakis New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Iraklion, Greece Posts: 7	You can do that, but i'm not sure it's the effect you want. Just by bumping up the whites does not give you the soft glow i understand you are looking for. However you can try that, in combination whith the method i mentioned in my previous post.

June 12th, 2007, 09:30 AM	#8
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	i`m getting it slowly...is there a way i can use 'alpha glow' to my advantage? It doesn't seem to do anything when applied...but its setup screen looks good.... __________________ Cinematography Site

June 12th, 2007, 09:42 AM	#9
Richard Wakefield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 680	The Alpha Glow effect adds color around the edges of a masked alpha channel. this is not what you want. IMO, 'Glow Effect' in AE is fantastic (for colours, or for whites, you make the choice), and also the 'white diffusion' aspect of Magic Bullet (or another free plugin if you don't have that) p.s. looking forward to P.J.'s usual dig at people who use effects like this.. u have been warned :)

June 12th, 2007, 01:04 PM	#11
Neil Fitchett Tourist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hoosick Falls N.Y. Posts: 4	Also is there a way to make a title (text) glow in Premiere? I have a complex set up already to reveal the text so I don`t want to rebuild it in AE. I want it to reveal and glow There is a nice plug in called "Luce" that sends out light beams from text. Works with Adobe Premiere and Premiere Elements. And it's free! It's available at the following link. http://amicoperry.altervista.org/luce/main.html

June 14th, 2007, 08:09 AM	#12
Michael W. Niece Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 65	Glowing Text in Premiere One method I tried is have two layers of the text (duplicate the first one if it's animated, etc.). On the lower layer text just add a simple gaussian blur to it and adjust as needed. -Michael __________________ May the best days of your past be the worst day of your future.

June 14th, 2007, 09:11 AM	#13
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	go grab a Trapcode plugin called Shine.. its for AE 55mm is also a good one.. i use it for Photoshop, but its also AE compatible.. its better than Vegas glow (even though Vegas glow is one of the best on the planet) and any other glow filter out there, but u CAN also do this without any special filters.. using the compositing method explained in the above post, BUT mess with opacities and liminance levels while ur at it.. Im fine with Glow filters Richard, its the "soft focus" filters which piss me off.. sorry couldnt resist..

June 14th, 2007, 10:14 PM	#15
Elliot Lee New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA Posts: 14	CHV plugin I think the Final Cut plugins Douglas meant to refer to were "Too Much Too Soon". You can get them at http://mattias.nu/plugins/ The Final Cut plugin I've used for something similar to the "white glow" effect is Silk & Fog available for free at http://www.chv-plugins.com/ (click on the downloads link, and then scroll down through the FxScript plugins section). That Silk & Fog filter in Silk mode does something very similar to what I think you're wanting. It won't help in Premiere but at least we have a point of reference for how to do this ;-) Hope this helps, -- Elliot