Yet another trailer

Jon Omiatek · June 1st, 2007, 02:27 PM

AWESOME, great stuff.... Thanks for sharing!

Patrick Moreau · June 1st, 2007, 02:53 PM

Jason,

The feet shot while they were dancing was done with the steadicam upside down, in other words the cheap low mode. As the balance is so good on the unit, doing tilts while moving or going upside down is pretty smooth as well. If I take the time to rebalance it a bit, it gets even better.

Thanks for the comments Jon and Jason.

Dana Salsbury · June 1st, 2007, 03:17 PM

Gosh I love to see good work.

When I watch an emotional video like that I really like to see shots of the brides face with different expressions. I used to be a portrait artist (oil-pastel) and am amazed at how powerful the face is as a visual element.

Glen Elliott · June 1st, 2007, 05:07 PM

Patrick I tend to agree about the comment on the music. While I personally like that track the bride was so happy and smiling it didn't feel like the best fit. That said- this trailer has some of the most visually impressive shots I've ever seen in a wedding video, and I'm not easily impressed.

PS Was that the A1 (60i)

Patrick Moreau · June 1st, 2007, 05:37 PM

Thanks Dana and Glen.

Point taken about the music. I basically went through my iTunes playlist for highlights music and lookd for something short and that would fit, this was the first thing I came across so I went with it. Now that have seen it many times, I do think a lighter track could have helped. Now for the highlights, since there is so much great footage, I am carefully weighing my options in terms of a song choice.

Everything for this was shot with the A1 (60i), I think we had four different ones that day. The brevis and A1 is a killer combo. I'm starting to use that for preps more than anything else. I have a plan to try 24F on the brevis shortly, just haven't got there yet.

Patrick

Jason Bowers · June 1st, 2007, 09:23 PM

Patrick
Did you take the flyer off the arm and handhold it to get that low? Also did you hold the sled at the same time>

Patrick Moreau · June 1st, 2007, 09:33 PM

Jason,

Barring the wedding that I forgot the steadicam arm at home, I always use the unit with the arm. Boy did I pay the price in terms of fatigue when I forot the arm though.

I'm not too sure about your other question. Are you asking if I had my hand on the post while moving? If so, thats a tough one to answer. Ideally, I stay away from the post as much as posisble and often when balanced right it needs very little guidance.

Jason Bowers · June 1st, 2007, 09:43 PM

By turning the unit upside down one hand is on the handle and the other holds what? i use the glidecam 4000 so to turn it upside down my other hand would need to be on the sled which would be at the top now. With the smooth shooter I would not be able to get low enough to do a feet shot so it would have to be done handheld without the arm. I hope this explains more? I really like that shot!

Ryan Hough · June 5th, 2007, 08:14 AM

MAN! Those shots are so nice looking! Very powerful stuff. The coloring is amazing.

Sean Seah · June 5th, 2007, 09:57 AM

Thank u for sharing the tricks Patrick. Many of us here will really benefit from your willingness to share. I have to try that low mode shot sometime.. like Jason said, I'm also wondering how to keep theleft hand steady on the post of the stabiliser.

Patrick Moreau · June 5th, 2007, 12:24 PM

Ryan,
Thanks for the comments. I've been spending more time on my color work and I have 6 or 7 batches of filters (like a photoshop action) which seem to be working very well. All of the color work was done in Final cut with native filters too.

Sean,
For me it seems to be a matter of getting that near perfect balance and getting some constant speed/inertia going with your moves. For the aisle shot, and all of the first dance shots, once I take the first couple steps and get going, I can almost fly the unit with one hand and that is where it gets really smooth. The arm on the steadicam is unbelievable too.

Travis Cossel · June 5th, 2007, 04:04 PM

I guess I don't understand the dislike of that music choice. I thought it fit very well with the shots and the edit. Must be a case of personal preference.

I was wondering how you got the shot of the ring with the light passing across it. Was that an accident or did you have someone pass a light over the shot?

My favorite shot I think was when you glided past the couple as they were dancing. That shot seriously looks like it came out of a movie.

Great work, Patrick!

Michael Y Wong · June 5th, 2007, 09:47 PM

I for one thought the trailer music was 100% kick a$$ & suitable, different; albiet suitable nonetheless; gotta love Hanz Zimmer!

Tom McDougal · June 6th, 2007, 11:02 AM

The music fits this perfectly (IMO) as a wedding should be dramatic.. Similar to movies when they capture those heart felt moments, the scences choosen work perfectly with the track.

Great work and great inspiration.

June 1st, 2007, 03:17 PM	#18
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Gosh I love to see good work. When I watch an emotional video like that I really like to see shots of the brides face with different expressions. I used to be a portrait artist (oil-pastel) and am amazed at how powerful the face is as a visual element. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

June 1st, 2007, 05:07 PM	#19
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Patrick I tend to agree about the comment on the music. While I personally like that track the bride was so happy and smiling it didn't feel like the best fit. That said- this trailer has some of the most visually impressive shots I've ever seen in a wedding video, and I'm not easily impressed. PS Was that the A1 (60i) __________________ Glen Elliott Cord 3 Films

June 5th, 2007, 04:04 PM	#27
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	I guess I don't understand the dislike of that music choice. I thought it fit very well with the shots and the edit. Must be a case of personal preference. I was wondering how you got the shot of the ring with the light passing across it. Was that an accident or did you have someone pass a light over the shot? My favorite shot I think was when you glided past the couple as they were dancing. That shot seriously looks like it came out of a movie. Great work, Patrick! __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

June 5th, 2007, 09:47 PM	#28
Michael Y Wong Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada! Posts: 353	I for one thought the trailer music was 100% kick a$$ & suitable, different; albiet suitable nonetheless; gotta love Hanz Zimmer! __________________ dreaming hobbyist + storyteller www.michaelywong.com Last edited by Michael Y Wong; June 6th, 2007 at 07:15 AM.

June 1st, 2007, 02:27 PM	#16
Jon Omiatek Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 755	AWESOME, great stuff.... Thanks for sharing!

June 1st, 2007, 02:53 PM	#17
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Jason, The feet shot while they were dancing was done with the steadicam upside down, in other words the cheap low mode. As the balance is so good on the unit, doing tilts while moving or going upside down is pretty smooth as well. If I take the time to rebalance it a bit, it gets even better. Thanks for the comments Jon and Jason.

June 1st, 2007, 05:37 PM	#20
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Thanks Dana and Glen. Point taken about the music. I basically went through my iTunes playlist for highlights music and lookd for something short and that would fit, this was the first thing I came across so I went with it. Now that have seen it many times, I do think a lighter track could have helped. Now for the highlights, since there is so much great footage, I am carefully weighing my options in terms of a song choice. Everything for this was shot with the A1 (60i), I think we had four different ones that day. The brevis and A1 is a killer combo. I'm starting to use that for preps more than anything else. I have a plan to try 24F on the brevis shortly, just haven't got there yet. Patrick

June 1st, 2007, 09:23 PM	#21
Jason Bowers Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thunder Bay, ON. Canada Posts: 374	Patrick Did you take the flyer off the arm and handhold it to get that low? Also did you hold the sled at the same time>

June 1st, 2007, 09:33 PM	#22
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Jason, Barring the wedding that I forgot the steadicam arm at home, I always use the unit with the arm. Boy did I pay the price in terms of fatigue when I forot the arm though. I'm not too sure about your other question. Are you asking if I had my hand on the post while moving? If so, thats a tough one to answer. Ideally, I stay away from the post as much as posisble and often when balanced right it needs very little guidance.

June 1st, 2007, 09:43 PM	#23
Jason Bowers Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thunder Bay, ON. Canada Posts: 374	By turning the unit upside down one hand is on the handle and the other holds what? i use the glidecam 4000 so to turn it upside down my other hand would need to be on the sled which would be at the top now. With the smooth shooter I would not be able to get low enough to do a feet shot so it would have to be done handheld without the arm. I hope this explains more? I really like that shot!

June 5th, 2007, 08:14 AM	#24
Ryan Hough Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 26	MAN! Those shots are so nice looking! Very powerful stuff. The coloring is amazing.

June 5th, 2007, 09:57 AM	#25
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	Thank u for sharing the tricks Patrick. Many of us here will really benefit from your willingness to share. I have to try that low mode shot sometime.. like Jason said, I'm also wondering how to keep theleft hand steady on the post of the stabiliser.

June 5th, 2007, 12:24 PM	#26
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Ryan, Thanks for the comments. I've been spending more time on my color work and I have 6 or 7 batches of filters (like a photoshop action) which seem to be working very well. All of the color work was done in Final cut with native filters too. Sean, For me it seems to be a matter of getting that near perfect balance and getting some constant speed/inertia going with your moves. For the aisle shot, and all of the first dance shots, once I take the first couple steps and get going, I can almost fly the unit with one hand and that is where it gets really smooth. The arm on the steadicam is unbelievable too.

June 6th, 2007, 11:02 AM	#29
Tom McDougal Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Port Jefferson, New York Posts: 62	The music fits this perfectly (IMO) as a wedding should be dramatic.. Similar to movies when they capture those heart felt moments, the scences choosen work perfectly with the track. Great work and great inspiration.