Projector and screen for SDEs and photomontages at the reception.. at DVinfo.net

Scott Shama · April 23rd, 2007, 10:31 PM

Hi all,

I'm trying to find out what the latest and greatest people are using for projector and screen for receptions...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Scott

Peter Jefferson · April 24th, 2007, 03:53 AM

latest and greatest is relative to your perceptions and budget.

I use a Panasonic AE700, and a 7x7 foot pullup screen which i dont know the name of (unbranded) and is 2 way (front/rear projection)
Mobility was a major issue here, and the screen pulling UPWARDS makes a huge difference in set up time. Also being front or rear pro, allows more flexibility depending on the venue.

I also have a smal mobile dvd player (NOT portable.. but small enough to fit into the projector bag), or i run it off the laptop if im doing HD

Scott Shama · April 25th, 2007, 01:10 PM

Thanks for the reply Peter!

Cheers,
Scott

Kim Swift · April 25th, 2007, 05:50 PM

Hi Peter,
where did you get the pullup screen and how much did it cost ya?

Peter Jefferson · April 25th, 2007, 07:25 PM

the screen itself reminds me of a long barrel... it unclips open (on teh floor) with extendable legs

the screen holding arms swivel upwards.. then you pull the screen up (like a holland blind) and lock the bar (with the screen) to the vertical holding arms

Voila, instant screen in under 6kg, and in under 4 minutes to set up...

There is no brand name on the screen or casing so i cant tell you.. but if u search it, you'll be able to find them, theyre very popular..

Dana Salsbury · April 25th, 2007, 07:26 PM

I'm looking for a screen to hang from a light beam...

Michael Nistler · April 26th, 2007, 01:50 PM

Hi Scott,

A good starting place is ProjectorCentral.com - I suggest you learn the tradeoffs between the light/lumens, projector distance, screen size and ambient light. They have a few good online calculators here:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...ulator-pro.cfm

Last month in another forum, a leading wedding videographer planned to use a 2500 lumen Toshiba TDP-T45U projector on a huge screen (250 inch diagonal). Using these specs, the calculator shows at 2500 lumens, the maximum length for video is 10 feet which will illuminate 155 inches diagonally (124 x 93 inches with a 4x3 diagonal) - so a 2500 lumen projector won't throw enough light for a huge screen, even if the room is pitch black:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Tosh...ulator-pro.htm

You'll also find this site has nice write-ups on projector reviews, etc. Bottom line, it pays to due your math based on your needs before locking in on any gear.

Good luck, Michael

Scott Shama · April 26th, 2007, 03:25 PM

Hi Michael,

Yes I've spent an enormous amount of time over there and I've had a difficult time deciding which one is best for weddings...My concern is having to show a photomontage at 7 or 8PM out doors in the summer in full daylight. For inside projections I am not as worried since the lights can be dimmed as needed.

I guess I am leaning towards something that is 16x9 (720p), has 2500 lumens but has a 2500 contrast. Anyhing with that much lumen and a higher contrast is probably out of my budget...

Cheers,
Scott

Travis Cossel · April 26th, 2007, 04:52 PM

I might be way off, but I don't think you're going to have much luck finding a projector/screen solution for use outside in full daylight.

Waldemar Winkler · April 26th, 2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Jefferson

latest and greatest is relative to your perceptions and budget.

I use a Panasonic AE700, and a 7x7 foot pullup screen which i dont know the name of (unbranded) and is 2 way (front/rear projection)
Mobility was a major issue here, and the screen pulling UPWARDS makes a huge difference in set up time. Also being front or rear pro, allows more flexibility depending on the venue.

I also have a smal mobile dvd player (NOT portable.. but small enough to fit into the projector bag), or i run it off the laptop if im doing HD

Projectors are similar in performance regardless of brand. Native resolution and lumen output are the primary considerations. Ease of navigating through the set-up menu is also important. How may ways can you connect to the projector? The more the better. Bear in mind the maximum resolution you can produce with your projects (4:3 SD, 16:9 SD, or the HD formats) and choose one that is a bit beyond.

The projection screen Peter is referring to is a rather new variation of what is commonly known in the AV rental industry as a "Cradle Screen". Instead of being mounted on a tripod stand, the retractable screen fits into an aluminium "cradle", which can be placed on a floor or table. A telescoping center hanging post can be positioned to the appropriate height and the screen connected to it. The value to a cradle screen is that it can be placed directly against a wall and only requires 6" - 8" of floor depth, where a tripod base screen will demand up to 4' of floor space, should you be concerned about safety.

This new variation is wonderful in many respects. The actual projection surface is built into a black masking, which eliminates the need for a masking drape. It utilizes a collapsing metal framework for screen support, thus eliminating the telescoping hanging post (an additional item to carry) I mentioned earlier.
The whole thing fits into its carrying case, which, by the way, is absolutely wonderful! So easy to set up.

In the US, Da-Lite and Draper offer the best products.

A screen surface both front and rear projection capable is likely a very thin matte white that is very translucent. However, it is not a 50/50 split. The surface is biased for rear projection, which only means front projection reflection (brightness) may be diminished, as well as clarity when viewing the image from the widest angle. If you choose rear projection, reverse the horizontal image in your projector's menu, and have an assistant out front to tell you when you have the image focused! The thickness of the screen material can deceive.

Regarding audio systems, i suggest two approaches. The first, and easiest, is to connect the DVD player audio out to your wireless mic transmitter (providing it has mic/instument/line/ sensitivity switching) and send the signal to the DJ/house PA. Lacking that, choose a powered PA speaker system.

Having said this, there is always the choice of outsourcing to an audio visual rental business. This direction can, in many ways, solve a lot of headaches.

Peter Jefferson · April 26th, 2007, 09:56 PM

Thanks for the insight Wal,
in fact with these screens, i have jsut come back froma corporate job interstate where they have banners in place of a screen.. i thought it woudl be great for trade shows as theyre self standing and require about 3 minutes to set up..

Scott Shama · April 27th, 2007, 12:54 AM

So...this is what I've decided on...

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...odel=PT-AX100U

http://www.elitescreens.com/product_ezcinema.htm
80" so I can carry it in my car easier..

Cheers,
Scott

Kim Swift · April 27th, 2007, 12:45 PM

How is this projector for projecting at weddings? I already bought it, just asking for comments.
IN24 $499(after rebate)Cool by Design

1700 max ANSI lumens
SVGA 800 x 600
5.95 lbs/2.7 kg

Waldemar Winkler · April 29th, 2007, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kim Swift

How is this projector for projecting at weddings? I already bought it, just asking for comments.
IN24 $499(after rebate)Cool by Design

1700 max ANSI lumens
SVGA 800 x 600
5.95 lbs/2.7 kg

Should be fine. HD projects may suffer a bit as the projector's native resolution is below HD.

Kim Swift · May 1st, 2007, 09:39 PM

Thanks for the rsponse, Waldermar!

Any thoughts on the Optoma Movie Time? Anyone?

1000 ANSI Lumens
854 x 480 (480p) W-SVGA resolution
Up to 4,000 - 1 contrast ratio
16 - 9 aspect ratio
36 - 335 image size projected on wall or screen (for best resolution, contrast, and brightness, we suggest purchasing an optional screen)

April 23rd, 2007, 10:31 PM	#1
Scott Shama Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 399	Projector and screen for SDEs and photomontages at the reception.. Hi all, I'm trying to find out what the latest and greatest people are using for projector and screen for receptions... Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Scott

April 25th, 2007, 07:26 PM	#6
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	I'm looking for a screen to hang from a light beam... __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

April 26th, 2007, 01:50 PM	#7
Michael Nistler Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Petaluma, CA Posts: 456	Projectors Hi Scott, A good starting place is ProjectorCentral.com - I suggest you learn the tradeoffs between the light/lumens, projector distance, screen size and ambient light. They have a few good online calculators here: http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...ulator-pro.cfm Last month in another forum, a leading wedding videographer planned to use a 2500 lumen Toshiba TDP-T45U projector on a huge screen (250 inch diagonal). Using these specs, the calculator shows at 2500 lumens, the maximum length for video is 10 feet which will illuminate 155 inches diagonally (124 x 93 inches with a 4x3 diagonal) - so a 2500 lumen projector won't throw enough light for a huge screen, even if the room is pitch black: http://www.projectorcentral.com/Tosh...ulator-pro.htm You'll also find this site has nice write-ups on projector reviews, etc. Bottom line, it pays to due your math based on your needs before locking in on any gear. Good luck, Michael

April 26th, 2007, 03:25 PM	#8
Scott Shama Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 399	Hi Michael, Yes I've spent an enormous amount of time over there and I've had a difficult time deciding which one is best for weddings...My concern is having to show a photomontage at 7 or 8PM out doors in the summer in full daylight. For inside projections I am not as worried since the lights can be dimmed as needed. I guess I am leaning towards something that is 16x9 (720p), has 2500 lumens but has a 2500 contrast. Anyhing with that much lumen and a higher contrast is probably out of my budget... Cheers, Scott Last edited by Scott Shama; April 27th, 2007 at 12:50 AM.

April 26th, 2007, 04:52 PM	#9
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	I might be way off, but I don't think you're going to have much luck finding a projector/screen solution for use outside in full daylight. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

April 24th, 2007, 03:53 AM	#2
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	latest and greatest is relative to your perceptions and budget. I use a Panasonic AE700, and a 7x7 foot pullup screen which i dont know the name of (unbranded) and is 2 way (front/rear projection) Mobility was a major issue here, and the screen pulling UPWARDS makes a huge difference in set up time. Also being front or rear pro, allows more flexibility depending on the venue. I also have a smal mobile dvd player (NOT portable.. but small enough to fit into the projector bag), or i run it off the laptop if im doing HD

April 25th, 2007, 01:10 PM	#3
Scott Shama Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 399	Thanks for the reply Peter! Cheers, Scott

April 25th, 2007, 05:50 PM	#4
Kim Swift Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 59	Hi Peter, where did you get the pullup screen and how much did it cost ya?

April 25th, 2007, 07:25 PM	#5
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	the screen itself reminds me of a long barrel... it unclips open (on teh floor) with extendable legs the screen holding arms swivel upwards.. then you pull the screen up (like a holland blind) and lock the bar (with the screen) to the vertical holding arms Voila, instant screen in under 6kg, and in under 4 minutes to set up... There is no brand name on the screen or casing so i cant tell you.. but if u search it, you'll be able to find them, theyre very popular..

April 26th, 2007, 09:56 PM	#11
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	Thanks for the insight Wal, in fact with these screens, i have jsut come back froma corporate job interstate where they have banners in place of a screen.. i thought it woudl be great for trade shows as theyre self standing and require about 3 minutes to set up..

April 27th, 2007, 12:54 AM	#12
Scott Shama Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 399	So...this is what I've decided on... http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...odel=PT-AX100U http://www.elitescreens.com/product_ezcinema.htm 80" so I can carry it in my car easier.. Cheers, Scott

April 27th, 2007, 12:45 PM	#13
Kim Swift Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 59	Infocus IN24? How is this projector for projecting at weddings? I already bought it, just asking for comments. IN24 $499(after rebate)Cool by Design 1700 max ANSI lumens SVGA 800 x 600 5.95 lbs/2.7 kg

May 1st, 2007, 09:39 PM	#15
Kim Swift Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 59	Thanks for the rsponse, Waldermar! Any thoughts on the Optoma Movie Time? Anyone? 1000 ANSI Lumens 854 x 480 (480p) W-SVGA resolution Up to 4,000 - 1 contrast ratio 16 - 9 aspect ratio 36 - 335 image size projected on wall or screen (for best resolution, contrast, and brightness, we suggest purchasing an optional screen)