Same Day Edit - Feb 12

Dana Salsbury · March 29th, 2007, 09:55 PM

It's time to quit your day job if you haven't already. You make our industry better through your talent and dedication.

I did my first SDE today and it went beautifully, although it was just one camera. Oh the anxiety! The frustrating part was the groom didn't want me to play the audio because he didn't want to distract the guests!

Jason, I'm assuming you played it from your laptop to a projector. What app did you use to play it?

Jeffrey Butler · April 7th, 2007, 03:37 PM

Did I say really well done? Really. Well done.

Chris Rodgers · April 7th, 2007, 09:54 PM

Very nice. I edited my own wedding video to that same song back in October. Nice work.

Jason Magbanua · April 9th, 2007, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Y Wong

Not to bring up a dead horse but that was definately fantastic.

Your 2 shooters (I assume you and a colleague of yours) really took advantage of 2 cams, giving the illlusion of some great & extensive coverage. Your subject framing and editing choices are also excellent.

Coincidentially I was just looking @ filmFx myself these past few days. I may give it a try but I 100% do love magic bullet.

May I ask how long it takes to render that ~4 min highlight video in 1080i HDV?

Many Congrats!

hey Michael. I only shoot SD wide (not HDV). With filmfx on all the clips, a minute clip will render at around 6-8 mins (using a dell xps 1210. 2.0 core 2 with two gigs of ram, 256 vid card).

Jason Magbanua · April 9th, 2007, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana Salsbury

Jason, I'm assuming you played it from your laptop to a projector. What app did you use to play it?

Hey Dana. If I have enough time. I burn a DVD in encore. Otherwise, I record onto DV tape using a dinky handycam and playback from there.

On occasion, when time is really running short, I play back from the timeline using the camera as pass through device.

Cheers.

Ron Anderson · April 9th, 2007, 02:48 PM

When I try to view the video I am being asked for a network username and password, why?

Ron

Dana Salsbury · April 12th, 2007, 10:15 AM

Jason,

It sounds like you come to the wedding with the timeline started and mapped out, then pull in clips. How long does it take you to render? I imagine that since you use widescreen SD instead of HD, it would shorten that time significantly. Was any of the footage taken before the wedding day?

I'm curious why you wouldn't play it from the laptop if you didn't have enough time to burn a DVD.

Jason Magbanua · April 13th, 2007, 08:12 PM

Dana,

There render times are very short. Around 8 to ten minutes for a one song video with filters. All shots in this clip was taken during the day.

Just a personal preference I guess, I trust an rca/cmposite connection more than a vga one.

Cheers.

Patrick Moreau · April 13th, 2007, 10:48 PM

Hi Jason,

I posted this a while back but never got a reply. Curious how long you took actually editing this piece and if you had anything laid down before hand, such as the song?

Jason Magbanua · April 14th, 2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Moreau

Hi Jason,

I posted this a while back but never got a reply. Curious how long you took actually editing this piece and if you had anything laid down before hand, such as the song?

Hi Patrick, didn't meant to not reply. :)

Nothing was laid down prior to the wedding day. The disc of songs was actually given during the bridal prep. Even so, I was familiar with the song structure.

I believe I took around 3-4 hours editing this piece. Not a straight 4 hours, but broken down into segments whenever editing was possible. It was a 4pm ceremony and reception started at around 730p. By the time ceremony was over, I was 2/5 done with the timeline.

Some parts where I get down to editing:
in transit
group picture taking at the church altar (30+ minutes, a big thing for Filipinos)
outdoor portraits before the reception
cocktail hour
dinner.

hope this helps.

Cheers,
Jason

Dana Salsbury · April 14th, 2007, 08:35 AM

Your a rock star Jason. Thanks for sharing.

I guess the one thing that I'm still wondering about is capturing and knowing from where you want to pull clips. I would think that this would be the biggest timesaver. Do you use Firestores? Do you jot down the timecode when you have a good shot and go straight to those places or just look at the thumbnails on the timeline?

Vincent Oliver · April 14th, 2007, 11:20 AM

I enjoyed the video, great stuff.

Is this the only clip that will be shown on the day, or do you do the full edit?

How long will your final video last and how long will that take?

I generally put together a 1 to 1.5 hour video, but this will take me about a week to compile.

Vincent Oliver
www.photo-i.co.uk

Vincent Oliver · April 14th, 2007, 05:41 PM

Just as a footnote to my previous post and indeed others who have posted on this thread.

My intial message saying it is a great video still stands, Jason has put together a superb wedding sequence.

However, I do question the statement that this was put together on the same day. I counted 64 individual shots that make up this 3.50 minute clip, together with a music track. I work quick, but not this quick, in fact I don't know of anyone who could put together such a polished video, from capture to dowloading, sorting and editing in the same day. Yes, I know many guys who can knock together a draft "sneak preview" in a copuple of hours, but not to this standard.

I also question the reason behind putting together a Same Day Edit, surely the day is still in progress, so why would any newly wed couple want to see events that took place a few hours ago, events of their day are still unfolding.

As I said, a nice well shot video, but I get the feeling that this is not the clip that would have been shown on the same day.

Vincent Oliver

Patrick Moreau · April 14th, 2007, 06:08 PM

If you had experienced showing a well-done same-day edit, you would understand what it is all about. It is a very emotional thing to share and is amazingly well received by the couple and the crowd. Go to a wedding in which a good SDE is shown and your question will sound silly.

The fact that you find it hard to believe that this was put together on the same-day, I think speaks to how well it was done. Jason really did a stellar job on this one. Putting a highlights together in 3-4 hours is not that crazy when your effecient though.

Vincent Oliver · April 14th, 2007, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Moreau

If you had experienced showing a well-done same-day edit, you would understand what it is all about. It is a very emotional thing to share and is amazingly well received by the couple and the crowd. Go to a wedding in which a good SDE is shown and your question will sound silly.

I can see the reason for stills photographers showing their proof prints at the reception i.e. try to sell as many prints as possible, but this is not so commonm these days.. Perhaps I am missing an oppertunity to generate a few extra DVD sales by not offering a SDE, but generally I find the people are busy enjoying themselves and I try to capture as much of this as possible. Jason says he spent 3-4 hours editing, I would rather spend this time shooting.

Quote:

The fact that you find it hard to believe that this was put together on the same-day, I think speaks to how well it was done. Jason really did a stellar job on this one. Putting a highlights together in 3-4 hours is not that crazy when your effecient though.

I totally agree with you here, Jason has put together a stunning production - but was the clip we see here the same clip that was shown on the day. I know plenty of guys who can knock up something quickly but not to this standard.

Perhaps Jason could enlighten us here, did you show this 3.50 minute clip or did you show a draft version?

March 29th, 2007, 09:55 PM	#31
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	It's time to quit your day job if you haven't already. You make our industry better through your talent and dedication. I did my first SDE today and it went beautifully, although it was just one camera. Oh the anxiety! The frustrating part was the groom didn't want me to play the audio because he didn't want to distract the guests! Jason, I'm assuming you played it from your laptop to a projector. What app did you use to play it? __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

April 7th, 2007, 03:37 PM	#32
Jeffrey Butler Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virgina, USA Posts: 276	Really well done... Did I say really well done? Really. Well done. __________________ Jeff Butler Butler Films

April 9th, 2007, 02:48 PM	#36
Ron Anderson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 45	Network Password When I try to view the video I am being asked for a network username and password, why? Ron

April 12th, 2007, 10:15 AM	#37
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Jason, It sounds like you come to the wedding with the timeline started and mapped out, then pull in clips. How long does it take you to render? I imagine that since you use widescreen SD instead of HD, it would shorten that time significantly. Was any of the footage taken before the wedding day? I'm curious why you wouldn't play it from the laptop if you didn't have enough time to burn a DVD. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

April 14th, 2007, 08:35 AM	#41
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Your a rock star Jason. Thanks for sharing. I guess the one thing that I'm still wondering about is capturing and knowing from where you want to pull clips. I would think that this would be the biggest timesaver. Do you use Firestores? Do you jot down the timecode when you have a good shot and go straight to those places or just look at the thumbnails on the timeline? __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

April 7th, 2007, 09:54 PM	#33
Chris Rodgers Tourist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Margate, New Jersey Posts: 4	Very nice. I edited my own wedding video to that same song back in October. Nice work.

April 13th, 2007, 08:12 PM	#38
Jason Magbanua Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manila Posts: 317	Dana, There render times are very short. Around 8 to ten minutes for a one song video with filters. All shots in this clip was taken during the day. Just a personal preference I guess, I trust an rca/cmposite connection more than a vga one. Cheers.

April 13th, 2007, 10:48 PM	#39
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Hi Jason, I posted this a while back but never got a reply. Curious how long you took actually editing this piece and if you had anything laid down before hand, such as the song?

April 14th, 2007, 11:20 AM	#42
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	I enjoyed the video, great stuff. Is this the only clip that will be shown on the day, or do you do the full edit? How long will your final video last and how long will that take? I generally put together a 1 to 1.5 hour video, but this will take me about a week to compile. Vincent Oliver www.photo-i.co.uk

April 14th, 2007, 05:41 PM	#43
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Just as a footnote to my previous post and indeed others who have posted on this thread. My intial message saying it is a great video still stands, Jason has put together a superb wedding sequence. However, I do question the statement that this was put together on the same day. I counted 64 individual shots that make up this 3.50 minute clip, together with a music track. I work quick, but not this quick, in fact I don't know of anyone who could put together such a polished video, from capture to dowloading, sorting and editing in the same day. Yes, I know many guys who can knock together a draft "sneak preview" in a copuple of hours, but not to this standard. I also question the reason behind putting together a Same Day Edit, surely the day is still in progress, so why would any newly wed couple want to see events that took place a few hours ago, events of their day are still unfolding. As I said, a nice well shot video, but I get the feeling that this is not the clip that would have been shown on the same day. Vincent Oliver Last edited by Vincent Oliver; April 14th, 2007 at 05:45 PM. Reason: spelling check

April 14th, 2007, 06:08 PM	#44
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	If you had experienced showing a well-done same-day edit, you would understand what it is all about. It is a very emotional thing to share and is amazingly well received by the couple and the crowd. Go to a wedding in which a good SDE is shown and your question will sound silly. The fact that you find it hard to believe that this was put together on the same-day, I think speaks to how well it was done. Jason really did a stellar job on this one. Putting a highlights together in 3-4 hours is not that crazy when your effecient though.