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Patrick Pike · November 10th, 2006, 12:44 PM

I haven't shared anything in a while, so here goes. Shot with (1) Z1U and (2) A1U's, edited in FCP. Please give me any feedback, as I have not yet turned it over to the client.

Windows Media Normal ~ 32mb
http://homepage.mac.com/ppike/videos/jay_aileen_hi.wmv

edit - pulled the hd link due to bandwidth

Patrick Moreau · November 10th, 2006, 05:36 PM

Thanks for sharing. First thing I noticed was how original it was, I really liked it overall. The way it was put together with the interviews at the beginning, the pacing, the split screen, all worked very well in my opinion.

I think the opening interviews could have been shortened a bit, they seemed to drag on, especially for an opening before the music starts. I also thought some clips REALLY needed color correction, whether or not the couple would see that is unlikely, but it really stood out ot me. I also would consider cuting some of the really shaky camera work or covering it up with the old film effect, which I think seems to compliment it better.

Thanks again for sharing. Really liked how you used the text throughout.

Vito DeFilippo · November 10th, 2006, 11:50 PM

I loved it. I agree with Patrick's comments about the opening interviews, especially the groom.

Watch your sound levels. The interviews are much lower than the rest.

Really liked the editing with the split screens and fast pace to match the song. Well done.

My main beef was the colour correction, as Patrick also mentioned, especially that many, many shots are underexposed (I donwloaded the HD version). You should have some latitude left if you shot in HD. I would see if you can bring them up some.

But really, it was great. Except for the half naked guy. That's just wrong, hehehe...

Peter Sing · November 11th, 2006, 03:01 AM

Three words. I love it! However I noticed some pinkish artifacts in the video.
Is it due to compression?

Leo Zheng · November 11th, 2006, 05:49 PM

This is the fastest-paced highlight I ever seen. Just saw the slowest I ever seen from another post. Great editing job.

Patrick, what system did you use and how did you create the old film effect?
Thanks.

Patrick Pike · November 11th, 2006, 09:36 PM

Thanks for the good words everyone.

On the topic of color correction, I intentionally miscolored a good number of clips. Many are tinted blue or pink (wedding colors), I didn't want to keep everything perfect because I don't thin it works with the music as well.

The interviews were a bit of a last second addition. The enitre "song" part of the highlight video was done and the interviews just seemed to fit, at least for the b & g. I really wish that I had more 'off the cuff' remarks to use through the video, but we were not able to obtain them.

I just recently had a chance to view the wmv-hd file on a pc, and I was shocked at how dark it looked. Even after roughly calibrating the monitor, it seemed to play back much darker than on my Mac. Because I am using Flip 4 Mac to do the wmv conversion, I will have to look into those issues.

I'm editing with FCP 5. All of the coloring / effects were done with Nattress' Film Effects (excellent product!) and some basic split-screening. One thing I noticed about doing the video with such a fast pace, is that it allowed me to used a lot of footage (and different) than I would otherwise.

Patrick Moreau · November 12th, 2006, 12:37 AM

Patrick,

Do you mind sending me the info on what version of flip4mac you have and what settingsyou used for the low quality export? I am looking for something very close to that but I havent had much luck manually altering the settings in that program.

Thanks

Patrick Pike · November 14th, 2006, 08:51 AM

Patrick-

The settings for Flip for Mac are as follows.:

- Export using WMV 9 Standard
- One Pass, VBR (I have had nothing but problems and artifacts using two-pass)
- Quality = 85
- Size = 480x270
- Rate 29.97
- Complexity - Offline Fast
- Key Frame Every 10
- Buffer Delay 5
- B Frame Distance 0
- Input Progressive (Converted with Compressor)
- Output Progressive

Thats everything I did for that clip. All in all, Flip4Mac does a good job, but I think the quality is better with h.264 or divx, but no one has those codecs :)

November 10th, 2006, 12:44 PM	#1
Patrick Pike Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mariposa, CA Posts: 200	Highlight to Share I haven't shared anything in a while, so here goes. Shot with (1) Z1U and (2) A1U's, edited in FCP. Please give me any feedback, as I have not yet turned it over to the client. Windows Media Normal ~ 32mb http://homepage.mac.com/ppike/videos/jay_aileen_hi.wmv edit - pulled the hd link due to bandwidth Last edited by Patrick Pike; November 11th, 2006 at 09:44 AM.

November 10th, 2006, 11:50 PM	#3
Vito DeFilippo Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 1,585	I loved it. I agree with Patrick's comments about the opening interviews, especially the groom. Watch your sound levels. The interviews are much lower than the rest. Really liked the editing with the split screens and fast pace to match the song. Well done. My main beef was the colour correction, as Patrick also mentioned, especially that many, many shots are underexposed (I donwloaded the HD version). You should have some latitude left if you shot in HD. I would see if you can bring them up some. But really, it was great. Except for the half naked guy. That's just wrong, hehehe... __________________ . http://www.nosmallroles.com

November 11th, 2006, 05:49 PM	#5
Leo Zheng Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 34	Great work. This is the fastest-paced highlight I ever seen. Just saw the slowest I ever seen from another post. Great editing job. Patrick, what system did you use and how did you create the old film effect? Thanks. __________________ Leo

November 10th, 2006, 05:36 PM	#2
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Thanks for sharing. First thing I noticed was how original it was, I really liked it overall. The way it was put together with the interviews at the beginning, the pacing, the split screen, all worked very well in my opinion. I think the opening interviews could have been shortened a bit, they seemed to drag on, especially for an opening before the music starts. I also thought some clips REALLY needed color correction, whether or not the couple would see that is unlikely, but it really stood out ot me. I also would consider cuting some of the really shaky camera work or covering it up with the old film effect, which I think seems to compliment it better. Thanks again for sharing. Really liked how you used the text throughout.

November 11th, 2006, 03:01 AM	#4
Peter Sing Tourist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2	Three words. I love it! However I noticed some pinkish artifacts in the video. Is it due to compression?

November 11th, 2006, 09:36 PM	#6
Patrick Pike Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mariposa, CA Posts: 200	Thanks for the good words everyone. On the topic of color correction, I intentionally miscolored a good number of clips. Many are tinted blue or pink (wedding colors), I didn't want to keep everything perfect because I don't thin it works with the music as well. The interviews were a bit of a last second addition. The enitre "song" part of the highlight video was done and the interviews just seemed to fit, at least for the b & g. I really wish that I had more 'off the cuff' remarks to use through the video, but we were not able to obtain them. I just recently had a chance to view the wmv-hd file on a pc, and I was shocked at how dark it looked. Even after roughly calibrating the monitor, it seemed to play back much darker than on my Mac. Because I am using Flip 4 Mac to do the wmv conversion, I will have to look into those issues. I'm editing with FCP 5. All of the coloring / effects were done with Nattress' Film Effects (excellent product!) and some basic split-screening. One thing I noticed about doing the video with such a fast pace, is that it allowed me to used a lot of footage (and different) than I would otherwise.

November 12th, 2006, 12:37 AM	#7
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Patrick, Do you mind sending me the info on what version of flip4mac you have and what settingsyou used for the low quality export? I am looking for something very close to that but I havent had much luck manually altering the settings in that program. Thanks

November 14th, 2006, 08:51 AM	#8
Patrick Pike Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mariposa, CA Posts: 200	Patrick- The settings for Flip for Mac are as follows.: - Export using WMV 9 Standard - One Pass, VBR (I have had nothing but problems and artifacts using two-pass) - Quality = 85 - Size = 480x270 - Rate 29.97 - Complexity - Offline Fast - Key Frame Every 10 - Buffer Delay 5 - B Frame Distance 0 - Input Progressive (Converted with Compressor) - Output Progressive Thats everything I did for that clip. All in all, Flip4Mac does a good job, but I think the quality is better with h.264 or divx, but no one has those codecs :)