My first wedding shoot shot with a vx2000 at DVinfo.net

Troy Davis · May 2nd, 2006, 01:20 PM

Hello,

This is my first wedding shoot. I'm looking for any pointers that will help in my next shoot. http://www.earthquakeproductions.net/wedding/flash.html
Btw, the above link is a flash stream and requires a high speed connecting to view.

Thanks,
Troy

Steven Davis · May 2nd, 2006, 01:38 PM

Troy, the clarity on that flash compression is great. How big is that file? What did you use to make the player?

I really liked the bridal walk angle you had. I think you captured a lot of stuff, some really great footage. Was this thier final, or a snippet. Did you have to work around a photographer?

If I had one simple opinion, it would be the affects on the end were a little heavy, the heart, the sun beam etc, but that's up to your client, hehe.

I think the clarity of that video is great. If that was your first shoot, you did great.

Troy Davis · May 2nd, 2006, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis

Troy, the clarity on that flash compression is great. How big is that file? What did you use to make the player?

I really liked the bridal walk angle you had. I think you captured a lot of stuff, some really great footage. Was this thier final, or a snippet. Did you have to work around a photographer?

If I had one simple opinion, it would be the affects on the end were a little heavy, the heart, the sun beam etc, but that's up to your client, hehe.

I think the clarity of that video is great. If that was your first shoot, you did great.

Steven,

The flash flv is pretty large (well over 10 meg I think) and the player was made using Flash 8 medium quality.The video was edited in Vegas 6 and then imported into Flash. This was just a snippet and the final is due in June. And yes, I did have to work around the photographer, but he was very accomodating. I'm glad you pointed out the sunbeam at the end. I only used this to cover up a large water spot I had on the lens from the water shot :-) I thought the heart trans was a little corny and won't be using it in the final. Thanks for you input.

Chris Barcellos · May 2nd, 2006, 03:36 PM

Troy:

Great shots.

Did you shoot in 16:9 or add letterbox in post ?

Way to go. Love my VX2000, and you really show what it can do !!

Troy Davis · May 2nd, 2006, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

Troy:

Great shots.

Did you shoot in 16:9 or add letterbox in post ?

Way to go. Love my VX2000, and you really show what it can do !!

Thanks Chris. I shot in 16:9 and it worked out pretty good in post.

Simon Antoniou · May 3rd, 2006, 04:09 AM

so, you added the letter box in post? So you needed to think about that when composing your shots?

Troy Davis · May 3rd, 2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon Antoniou

so, you added the letter box in post? So you needed to think about that when composing your shots?

Yes, I shot in 16:9 mode, so the letter box frame was in the camera. In post the letter box effect was automatically there. I hope this makes sense.

Chris Barcellos · May 3rd, 2006, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Antoniou

so, you added the letter box in post? So you needed to think about that when composing your shots?

Simon:

VX2000 and VX2100 and PD 150 and 170, can select 16:9 in camera. It does show up, then, as 16:9 in editing. When I first bought my VX2K, there was a lot of talk that the 16:9 selection created some issues with respect to resolution. In fact, recommendation by some was to shoot 4:3, and place a matte on your LCD finder, or to insert a letterbox from a .jpg file using memory mix. I've done it that way for many years. But you can see Troy got some pretty nice images, and since I am now mixing DV SD from my FX1 in 16:9, I will probably be using the built in 16:9 mode.

Simon Antoniou · May 3rd, 2006, 02:59 PM

Thanks for the info..

It’s just these letterbox issues confuse me as when I watch films on my widescreen TV, sometimes its letterboxed sometimes its not, new and old films.

When I shoot, I do want the letterbox look. But even if the camera shoots in 16:9 the letterbox is not there and I need to put tape over the monitor to compose the shots.

Is there a different way or do some cameras have the letterbox automatically?

Chris Barcellos · May 3rd, 2006, 03:57 PM

Simon:

Yes, there are cameras that are native 16:9. All of Sony's new HDV cameras shoot native 16:9HDV and SD, with provisions to shoot 4:3 as an option.

The real confusion with DV in my mind is that whether it is filmed in 4:3 or 16:9 nominally, it still comes in the same 720 x 480 package, from what I understand. I had this drilled into me by one of the tech guys on this forum. Because of that, I always felt you can't go wrong by shooting in 4:3 and adding a letter box matte. You lose the bottom and top pixels, but it would seem to me you would loose it anyway by shooting in 16:9 mode on the Sonys. Now, as I understand it, the native 16:9 s have more pixels, but that would mean it still gets squeezed back into the 720 x 480 nominal package. If any of this makes sense to anybody, maybe they can pick up the technical explanation from there.

May 2nd, 2006, 01:20 PM	#1
Troy Davis Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Raleigh,NC Posts: 263	My first wedding shoot shot with a vx2000 Hello, This is my first wedding shoot. I'm looking for any pointers that will help in my next shoot. http://www.earthquakeproductions.net/wedding/flash.html Btw, the above link is a flash stream and requires a high speed connecting to view. Thanks, Troy

May 2nd, 2006, 01:38 PM	#2
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Looks nice Troy, the clarity on that flash compression is great. How big is that file? What did you use to make the player? I really liked the bridal walk angle you had. I think you captured a lot of stuff, some really great footage. Was this thier final, or a snippet. Did you have to work around a photographer? If I had one simple opinion, it would be the affects on the end were a little heavy, the heart, the sun beam etc, but that's up to your client, hehe. I think the clarity of that video is great. If that was your first shoot, you did great. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

May 2nd, 2006, 03:36 PM	#4
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Troy: Great shots. Did you shoot in 16:9 or add letterbox in post ? Way to go. Love my VX2000, and you really show what it can do !! __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

May 3rd, 2006, 03:57 PM	#10
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Simon: Yes, there are cameras that are native 16:9. All of Sony's new HDV cameras shoot native 16:9HDV and SD, with provisions to shoot 4:3 as an option. The real confusion with DV in my mind is that whether it is filmed in 4:3 or 16:9 nominally, it still comes in the same 720 x 480 package, from what I understand. I had this drilled into me by one of the tech guys on this forum. Because of that, I always felt you can't go wrong by shooting in 4:3 and adding a letter box matte. You lose the bottom and top pixels, but it would seem to me you would loose it anyway by shooting in 16:9 mode on the Sonys. Now, as I understand it, the native 16:9 s have more pixels, but that would mean it still gets squeezed back into the 720 x 480 nominal package. If any of this makes sense to anybody, maybe they can pick up the technical explanation from there. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

May 3rd, 2006, 04:09 AM	#6
Simon Antoniou Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 73	so, you added the letter box in post? So you needed to think about that when composing your shots?

May 3rd, 2006, 02:59 PM	#9
Simon Antoniou Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 73	Thanks for the info.. It’s just these letterbox issues confuse me as when I watch films on my widescreen TV, sometimes its letterboxed sometimes its not, new and old films. When I shoot, I do want the letterbox look. But even if the camera shoots in 16:9 the letterbox is not there and I need to put tape over the monitor to compose the shots. Is there a different way or do some cameras have the letterbox automatically?