New Samples To Show at DVinfo.net

David McKnight · March 7th, 2006, 10:43 PM

OK, I'm feeling ten feet tall and bulletproof. So here goes...

http://mcknightvideo.com/ceremonyshortform.shtml

I've never, ever posted any samples online to show. But I have learned a lot on this board and would appreciate any comments. Be gentle!

The webpage is a temp page only, samples are WMP only for now.
Sample is a short form ceremony.

thanks,
David

<edit> changed URL to reflect only the current short form ceremony. This ultimately is not for a web demo, but as part of a play-all chapter on dvd.

Mike F Smith · March 8th, 2006, 01:12 AM

Good Work David. Lots of nice shots and good cuts. My only nit pick would be the first two shots. I think the piece would be stronger if you streched the third shot just a little and started there. The music would cut there just fine. Now if you wanted to use the first two with some gold empossed titles or something I could live with that. Might work might not.

Mike

Marcus Marchesseault · March 8th, 2006, 04:01 AM

"I've never, ever posted any samples online to show. But I have learned a lot on this board and would appreciate any comments. Be gentle!"

How DARE you post such trash!? You diminish all those present with your unprofessional camera work and lack of talent! :)

Seriously, I don't think you have anything to worry about. As editors, we must nitpick, but you have nothing to be self-conscious about.

I echo what Mike said about the first shots (I watched Demo_WMV9_512.wmv). I think the B&W effect loses something when highly-compressed. The detail is lost, and that is the strength of black and white footage. I really like the fade to color on the third shot. I think the first two shots would work if shortened, or had the titles Mike mentioned.

I would also like to add some color correction to the shot where the bride enters the church with her father(s?). That first shot was a bit blue and/or colorless in their faces. The bride looks much better in the warmer lighting of the later clips. Since this is the first time we see the bride, it is very important that the clip look the best. A simple color correct to match it to the later clips would be a quick fix and, together with the short edit to the beginning, should give your video the immediate impact you want for a demo.

David McKnight · March 8th, 2006, 05:26 AM

Thanks guys; I think you got directed to the file that's been on the site for about a year. I changed the URL in the original post to reflect a more current short form ceremony that's about 6 minutes long.
The thing I liked least about this piece were the exposure problems from some overly backlit shots.

Andrew Goodman · March 8th, 2006, 05:38 AM

First off… great job!!!

I really liked it and thought it got better and better throughout the video, the only one wee thing I would say and it’s maybe the same kind of thing as the first two guys is that the first few clips just don’t quite do it for me… it’s may be because there is a lot of close zooming clips close together. But that’s just in my option and it’s just being really picky.

All the best and keep it up.

Paul Cascio · March 8th, 2006, 06:06 AM

I'm certainly not one of the experts here, but I would suggest letting your subjects walk out of the frame rather than following them with the camera. Also maybe a bit more headroom.

Nice job and good editing.

Terry Lyons · March 8th, 2006, 09:32 AM

I thought it was great and the part I liked most was the voice overs. What mike and recorder did you use?

Doug Bennett · March 8th, 2006, 09:57 AM

very nice work. Kudos!

David McKnight · March 8th, 2006, 02:43 PM

Voice overs were done with an iRiver and GS mic, downstairs from where the very loud reception was being held. I included a "groom interview" as an extra, where I asked several "Storyteller" type questions. Had to do LOTS of splicing of the answers, he was a fast talker with lots of details, but it was fun and made for a better piece I think.

March 7th, 2006, 10:43 PM	#1
David McKnight Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas City, TX Posts: 39	New Samples To Show OK, I'm feeling ten feet tall and bulletproof. So here goes... http://mcknightvideo.com/ceremonyshortform.shtml I've never, ever posted any samples online to show. But I have learned a lot on this board and would appreciate any comments. Be gentle! The webpage is a temp page only, samples are WMP only for now. Sample is a short form ceremony. thanks, David <edit> changed URL to reflect only the current short form ceremony. This ultimately is not for a web demo, but as part of a play-all chapter on dvd. Last edited by David McKnight; March 8th, 2006 at 05:45 AM.

March 8th, 2006, 06:06 AM	#6
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	Good job I'm certainly not one of the experts here, but I would suggest letting your subjects walk out of the frame rather than following them with the camera. Also maybe a bit more headroom. Nice job and good editing. __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

March 8th, 2006, 09:32 AM	#7
Terry Lyons Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alta Sierra Posts: 182	I thought it was great and the part I liked most was the voice overs. What mike and recorder did you use? __________________ TAG

March 8th, 2006, 01:12 AM	#2
Mike F Smith Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 156	Good Work David. Lots of nice shots and good cuts. My only nit pick would be the first two shots. I think the piece would be stronger if you streched the third shot just a little and started there. The music would cut there just fine. Now if you wanted to use the first two with some gold empossed titles or something I could live with that. Might work might not. Mike

March 8th, 2006, 04:01 AM	#3
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	"I've never, ever posted any samples online to show. But I have learned a lot on this board and would appreciate any comments. Be gentle!" How DARE you post such trash!? You diminish all those present with your unprofessional camera work and lack of talent! :) Seriously, I don't think you have anything to worry about. As editors, we must nitpick, but you have nothing to be self-conscious about. I echo what Mike said about the first shots (I watched Demo_WMV9_512.wmv). I think the B&W effect loses something when highly-compressed. The detail is lost, and that is the strength of black and white footage. I really like the fade to color on the third shot. I think the first two shots would work if shortened, or had the titles Mike mentioned. I would also like to add some color correction to the shot where the bride enters the church with her father(s?). That first shot was a bit blue and/or colorless in their faces. The bride looks much better in the warmer lighting of the later clips. Since this is the first time we see the bride, it is very important that the clip look the best. A simple color correct to match it to the later clips would be a quick fix and, together with the short edit to the beginning, should give your video the immediate impact you want for a demo.

March 8th, 2006, 05:26 AM	#4
David McKnight Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas City, TX Posts: 39	Thanks guys; I think you got directed to the file that's been on the site for about a year. I changed the URL in the original post to reflect a more current short form ceremony that's about 6 minutes long. The thing I liked least about this piece were the exposure problems from some overly backlit shots.

March 8th, 2006, 05:38 AM	#5
Andrew Goodman Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Britain Posts: 30	First off… great job!!! I really liked it and thought it got better and better throughout the video, the only one wee thing I would say and it’s maybe the same kind of thing as the first two guys is that the first few clips just don’t quite do it for me… it’s may be because there is a lot of close zooming clips close together. But that’s just in my option and it’s just being really picky. All the best and keep it up.

March 8th, 2006, 09:57 AM	#8
Doug Bennett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 260	very nice work. Kudos!

March 8th, 2006, 02:43 PM	#9
David McKnight Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas City, TX Posts: 39	Voice overs were done with an iRiver and GS mic, downstairs from where the very loud reception was being held. I included a "groom interview" as an extra, where I asked several "Storyteller" type questions. Had to do LOTS of splicing of the answers, he was a fast talker with lots of details, but it was fun and made for a better piece I think.