Bad singer at the reception. at DVinfo.net

Joe Calalang · February 2nd, 2006, 02:13 PM

A friend of mine gave me a bunch of wedding tapes to edit. One of the clips had a woman sing a dedication to the couple. However...she was so off tune I wasn't sure whether I should put her in the movie or not. She'd have definitely made the American Idol Flunky highlight reels.

NOTE: I didn't have any communication with the couple. I asked my friend to call the couple and ask if I should edit her out. He told me to put her in the movie since she was a relative.

So I ask you guys, what would you do in a situation like this?

Mike Marriage · February 2nd, 2006, 02:30 PM

Put it in. They can always look back and laugh! Maybe don't use the whole thing though. It isn't your fault that she is rubbish.

K. Forman · February 2nd, 2006, 02:41 PM

Or, you could have real fun with it, and capture some of the American Idol judges giving funny looks and feedback on her performance. Of course, some of the family might not get the joke, and American Idol/Fox would have a case... but it would be funny :)

Joe Allen Rosenberger · February 2nd, 2006, 03:05 PM

Make a DVD menu "option" out of the singer......we do this sort of thing all the time with "full toasts" and any other unusual clips that do not make sense in placing them in the "main play" of the video......we use highlights of toasts for main play and make the entire toast a menu option since toasts can get really long at times. good luck-

Steven Davis · February 2nd, 2006, 03:39 PM

or..........................you could have a little fun with effects, reverb, pitch etc in the audio and see if you can improve it. Similar example, I had really crappy sound track in a wedding, the singers were distorted, so I eased back on the vocal/sound track a little, and dubed over the same sound track. It made a big difference. SO you might be able to pound away at the audio with some mixing and make a small improvement.

Steven Davis · February 2nd, 2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Forman

Or, you could have real fun with it, and capture some of the American Idol judges giving funny looks and feedback on her performance. Of course, some of the family might not get the joke, and American Idol/Fox would have a case... but it would be funny :)

Yes, this would be a riot.

K. Forman · February 2nd, 2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Davis

Yes, this would be a riot.

I realise it was my idea, but be sure to check with both families, to be sure it won't cause problems.

A friend of mine taped our wedding, and my Brother-in-Law performed the ceremony. After the vows, as my new wife and I were walking back to the hall for the reception, my friend caught my sister talking with my Brother-in-Law, saying she "was getting as many pictures as possible, so that they can remember who married them after they get divorced".

Weeeeeeeell! I sort of chuckled as I stumbled across this, and even tweaked the volume a bit... just to be sure of what I had heard. Then, I made two versions, the short and sweet version, and gave her an extended version, which included her comment... boosted enough to be clearly heard.

But, that is just me.

Steven Davis · February 2nd, 2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Forman

But, that is just me.

Hey Keith, I have a practice of doing test tape roles prior to the wedding starting, (mainly for audio purposes)

And I'll have the groom mic on at that point. I tell ya, I have had some interesting conversations between 'the guys' recorded. Funny stuff.

K. Forman · February 2nd, 2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Davis

Hey Keith, I have a practice of doing test tape roles prior to the wedding starting, (mainly for audio purposes)

And I'll have the groom mic on at that point. I tell ya, I have had some interesting conversations between 'the guys' recorded. Funny stuff.

Of course, being a guy yourself, you don't let this stuff get through to the bride, do ya? I'm sure some of it could be disasterous!

Steven Davis · February 2nd, 2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Forman

Of course, being a guy yourself, you don't let this stuff get through to the bride, do ya? I'm sure some of it could be disasterous!

I only added one silly line about the groom finding out from another party member that the bride was reading a magazine prior to the ceremony. Since this was a relative, they thought it was a riot. The groom's line was, "She's reading a magazine? That figures."

Patrick Pike · February 2nd, 2006, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Forman

Of course, being a guy yourself, you don't let this stuff get through to the bride, do ya? I'm sure some of it could be disasterous!

As a further question, what do you do when the couple requests all of the raw footage and this kind of stuff happens? There is no way that I would go through and "strip" audio out of master tapes, nor would I delete this. But I also don't like putting other guys in the dog house!

Travis Cossel · February 2nd, 2006, 06:57 PM

Joe:

Is the friend that gave you the tapes paying you? If so, I would do as he requests. If the couple is paying you, then I would confirm with them. It sounds like the former is the case.

Patrick:

I never release the original footage to the couple, even if they are willing to pay.

Joe Calalang · February 3rd, 2006, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Cossel

Joe:

Is the friend that gave you the tapes paying you? If so, I would do as he requests. If the couple is paying you, then I would confirm with them. It sounds like the former is the case.

Patrick:

I never release the original footage to the couple, even if they are willing to pay.

Yes. My friend paid me to edit this for him.

Peter Jefferson · February 5th, 2006, 09:59 AM

hahahahaha
this has happened so many times..

alot of my clients are churchgoers and are a part of certain communities where they do "favours" for each other..

no joke, one woman sounded like an injured sparrow.. another sounded like a clubbed baby seal, and the latest one sounded like a cat thats jsut been hit by a bus...

No amount of AutoTune(a plugin for ProTools) could fix it..
i leave these in either way. I also offer an additional audio track if the clients are nice enough about it, coz i DO tel them about the performance, coz to them, the performance itself is more important than the talent...

Jean-Francois Robichaud · February 5th, 2006, 10:23 AM

I'm not a wedding videographer, but I did shoot a wedding for a friend once. When the bride threw the bouquet, her rather... large cousin leaped to grab it and crashed to the floor. In the video, I put a slow-mo replay of the action. It was hilarious. The groom loved it.

February 2nd, 2006, 02:13 PM	#1
Joe Calalang Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 84	Bad singer at the reception. A friend of mine gave me a bunch of wedding tapes to edit. One of the clips had a woman sing a dedication to the couple. However...she was so off tune I wasn't sure whether I should put her in the movie or not. She'd have definitely made the American Idol Flunky highlight reels. NOTE: I didn't have any communication with the couple. I asked my friend to call the couple and ask if I should edit her out. He told me to put her in the movie since she was a relative. So I ask you guys, what would you do in a situation like this? __________________ Newbie using Canon GL2 and Powerbook G4 1.25 gHz 512ram and a Mac Pro

February 2nd, 2006, 02:41 PM	#3
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Or, you could have real fun with it, and capture some of the American Idol judges giving funny looks and feedback on her performance. Of course, some of the family might not get the joke, and American Idol/Fox would have a case... but it would be funny :) __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

February 2nd, 2006, 03:39 PM	#5
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	or..........................you could have a little fun with effects, reverb, pitch etc in the audio and see if you can improve it. Similar example, I had really crappy sound track in a wedding, the singers were distorted, so I eased back on the vocal/sound track a little, and dubed over the same sound track. It made a big difference. SO you might be able to pound away at the audio with some mixing and make a small improvement. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

February 2nd, 2006, 06:57 PM	#12
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	Joe: Is the friend that gave you the tapes paying you? If so, I would do as he requests. If the couple is paying you, then I would confirm with them. It sounds like the former is the case. Patrick: I never release the original footage to the couple, even if they are willing to pay. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

February 5th, 2006, 10:23 AM	#15
Jean-Francois Robichaud Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 142	I'm not a wedding videographer, but I did shoot a wedding for a friend once. When the bride threw the bouquet, her rather... large cousin leaped to grab it and crashed to the floor. In the video, I put a slow-mo replay of the action. It was hilarious. The groom loved it. __________________ JF Robichaud

February 2nd, 2006, 02:30 PM	#2
Mike Marriage Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE of London, England Posts: 788	Put it in. They can always look back and laugh! Maybe don't use the whole thing though. It isn't your fault that she is rubbish.

February 2nd, 2006, 03:05 PM	#4
Joe Allen Rosenberger Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 419	Make a DVD menu "option" out of the singer......we do this sort of thing all the time with "full toasts" and any other unusual clips that do not make sense in placing them in the "main play" of the video......we use highlights of toasts for main play and make the entire toast a menu option since toasts can get really long at times. good luck-

February 5th, 2006, 09:59 AM	#14
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	hahahahaha this has happened so many times.. alot of my clients are churchgoers and are a part of certain communities where they do "favours" for each other.. no joke, one woman sounded like an injured sparrow.. another sounded like a clubbed baby seal, and the latest one sounded like a cat thats jsut been hit by a bus... No amount of AutoTune(a plugin for ProTools) could fix it.. i leave these in either way. I also offer an additional audio track if the clients are nice enough about it, coz i DO tel them about the performance, coz to them, the performance itself is more important than the talent...