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Glen Elliott · December 9th, 2005, 12:04 AM

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December 9th, 2005, 12:28 AM

That... was... awesome!

Very nice work!

A.J. Briones · December 9th, 2005, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Newcomb

That... was... awesome!

Very nice work!

charles, please explain how chris m watson's work in another thread is, as you say, "flagrant, arrogant and unprofessional" and "makes us all look bad" with regard to copyright infringement and glenn's is "awesome", all in the space of 12 minutes of time between postings.

not trolling, but genuinely curious. am i missing something here?

with regards to the piece... that was good stuff, glenn. i enjoyed it immensely. it's just too bad that one of the moms was not around for the solo shot on the green and you had to replace it with reception footage. were you using a glidecam-style stabilizer or a monopod? or both?

Kim Kinser · December 9th, 2005, 01:14 AM

That was great. You keep changing it up Glen.

WOW!

December 9th, 2005, 08:32 AM

[QUOTE=A.J. Briones]charles, please explain how chris m watson's work in another thread is, as you say, "flagrant, arrogant and unprofessional" and "makes us all look bad" with regard to copyright infringement and glenn's is "awesome", QUOTE]

Easy. I see good, creative work in Glenn's piece... without having to resort to illegal use of copyrighted material belonging to other parties. No mystery.

A.J. Briones · December 9th, 2005, 08:51 AM

[QUOTE=Charles Newcomb]

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.J. Briones

charles, please explain how chris m watson's work in another thread is, as you say, "flagrant, arrogant and unprofessional" and "makes us all look bad" with regard to copyright infringement and glenn's is "awesome", QUOTE]

Easy. I see good, creative work in Glenn's piece... without having to resort to illegal use of copyrighted material belonging to other parties. No mystery.

oh, ok. my bad.

you must've had the volume down because you didn't hear the song from the "kill bill" soundtrack.

seriously, am i missing something here?

Mike Cook · December 9th, 2005, 09:43 AM

Glen,

Every now and then I have to reply to you the same way....

Damn you man! Damn you!

Now I am going to spend my whole day figuring out some way to top you. Unlikely, but I will endevour to do so. This forum has done it's job again - inpiring people to push it a little higher.

Nice work, enjoyed it.

Mike

Glen Elliott · December 9th, 2005, 10:42 AM

[QUOTE=A.J. Briones]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Newcomb

oh, ok. my bad.

you must've had the volume down because you didn't hear the song from the "kill bill" soundtrack.

seriously, am i missing something here?

Very good point, however please don't feed the fire. If posting clips will always result in a copyright debate I will have to refrain from ever posting any of my work for viewing.

I understand and respect that people feel strongly about this issue but please don't hijack threads and drag them through the mud, this is not aimed soley at anyone in particular. Thank you.

Patrick Moreau · December 9th, 2005, 10:45 AM

I really enjoyed old film effect interspersed as well as how you had the text come in, it was very original, at least from what I have seen. On the other hand, I do think this is a good example of style over content and found that while it looked amazing, it got repetitive pretty quickly and there wasn't much meaning in the footage. I should say that I am also biased as I don't do a credits piece simply because I see it as something that well it owuld be nice to show off for the first 15 seconds, is not liklely to be repeatedly watched, like a preps or highlights clip. Do you offer solid packages now that come with certain clips, or do you do each one as it comes?

Patrick Moreau · December 9th, 2005, 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=Glen Elliott]

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.J. Briones

I understand and respect that people feel strongly about this issue but please don't hijack threads and drag them through the mud, this is not aimed soley at anyone in particular. Thank you.

Glen,

As a moderator, can't you simply delete the post before it goes anywhere, whenever you catch it. The same thing can only be said so many times and as you mentioned, it has the enduring effect of discouraging the sharing of clips.

Glen Elliott · December 9th, 2005, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Cook

Glen,

Every now and then I have to reply to you the same way....

Damn you man! Damn you!

Now I am going to spend my whole day figuring out some way to top you. Unlikely, but I will endevour to do so. This forum has done it's job again - inpiring people to push it a little higher.

Nice work, enjoyed it.

Mike

Thanks Mike, for the very kind words.

Glen Elliott · December 9th, 2005, 10:56 AM

I really enjoyed old film effect interspersed as well as how you had the text come in, it was very original, at least from what I have seen.
Thank you Patrick.

On the other hand, I do think this is a good example of style over content and found that while it looked amazing, it got repetitive pretty quickly and there wasn't much meaning in the footage.
I'd have to agree with on the point about style over content. That's absolutely fine too because that's EXACTLY what this piece is intended for. It's not used as a prelude to the video. My normal wedding/vignette editing style would contrast this so drastically it would be out of place. Instead it's an option they have the choice to add to a regular full coverage package. It's a fun add-on and the family and friends seem to love it.

I should say that I am also biased as I don't do a credits piece simply because I see it as something that well it owuld be nice to show off for the first 15 seconds, is not liklely to be repeatedly watched, like a preps or highlights clip. Do you offer solid packages now that come with certain clips, or do you do each one as it comes?
That really depends. It's usually the groom's favorite part of the video...and often IS indeed watched several times. However that would depend on the couple...I'd assume that couples who wouldn't watch it more than once wouldn't pay the money to have one produced.

Thanks for the input.

Glen Elliott · December 9th, 2005, 10:59 AM

[QUOTE=Patrick Moreau]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Elliott

Glen,

As a moderator, can't you simply delete the post before it goes anywhere, whenever you catch it. The same thing can only be said so many times and as you mentioned, it has the enduring effect of discouraging the sharing of clips.

We try to have as little intervention as possible because we DO respect peoples thoughts and opinions and want people to communicate as freely as possible. However if the subject takes a thread off topic, becomes volitile, and then continues after a request has been made to stop...then maybe an action may be taken.

It is never my or any moderators intention to squelch anyone and action is only taken when rules are broken and/or as a last resort.

A.J. Briones · December 9th, 2005, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Elliott

Very good point, however please don't feed the fire. If posting clips will always result in a copyright debate I will have to refrain from ever posting any of my work for viewing.

that's exactly my point. this has happened to me twice now, and i will no longer be sharing here either.

Mike Cook · December 9th, 2005, 11:34 AM

AJ, don't get too wound up. We love to see the work, just don't get dragged into the debate. It will rage long after we are dead and little mice are living in our skulls.

Glen - you say this is an add on. I understand if you don't want to say, but about how much do you get for these?

Mike

December 9th, 2005, 12:04 AM	#1
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	A little something different... link removed __________________ Glen Elliott Cord 3 Films

December 9th, 2005, 12:28 AM	#2
Guest Posts: n/a	Wow That... was... awesome! Very nice work!

December 9th, 2005, 10:56 AM	#12
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	I really enjoyed old film effect interspersed as well as how you had the text come in, it was very original, at least from what I have seen. Thank you Patrick. On the other hand, I do think this is a good example of style over content and found that while it looked amazing, it got repetitive pretty quickly and there wasn't much meaning in the footage. I'd have to agree with on the point about style over content. That's absolutely fine too because that's EXACTLY what this piece is intended for. It's not used as a prelude to the video. My normal wedding/vignette editing style would contrast this so drastically it would be out of place. Instead it's an option they have the choice to add to a regular full coverage package. It's a fun add-on and the family and friends seem to love it. I should say that I am also biased as I don't do a credits piece simply because I see it as something that well it owuld be nice to show off for the first 15 seconds, is not liklely to be repeatedly watched, like a preps or highlights clip. Do you offer solid packages now that come with certain clips, or do you do each one as it comes? That really depends. It's usually the groom's favorite part of the video...and often IS indeed watched several times. However that would depend on the couple...I'd assume that couples who wouldn't watch it more than once wouldn't pay the money to have one produced. Thanks for the input. __________________ Glen Elliott Cord 3 Films

December 9th, 2005, 01:14 AM	#4
Kim Kinser Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Voorhees, NJ Posts: 82	That was great. You keep changing it up Glen. WOW!

December 9th, 2005, 08:32 AM	#5
Guest Posts: n/a	[QUOTE=A.J. Briones]charles, please explain how chris m watson's work in another thread is, as you say, "flagrant, arrogant and unprofessional" and "makes us all look bad" with regard to copyright infringement and glenn's is "awesome", QUOTE] Easy. I see good, creative work in Glenn's piece... without having to resort to illegal use of copyrighted material belonging to other parties. No mystery.

December 9th, 2005, 09:43 AM	#7
Mike Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland OR Posts: 190	Glen, Every now and then I have to reply to you the same way.... Damn you man! Damn you! Now I am going to spend my whole day figuring out some way to top you. Unlikely, but I will endevour to do so. This forum has done it's job again - inpiring people to push it a little higher. Nice work, enjoyed it. Mike

December 9th, 2005, 10:45 AM	#9
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	I really enjoyed old film effect interspersed as well as how you had the text come in, it was very original, at least from what I have seen. On the other hand, I do think this is a good example of style over content and found that while it looked amazing, it got repetitive pretty quickly and there wasn't much meaning in the footage. I should say that I am also biased as I don't do a credits piece simply because I see it as something that well it owuld be nice to show off for the first 15 seconds, is not liklely to be repeatedly watched, like a preps or highlights clip. Do you offer solid packages now that come with certain clips, or do you do each one as it comes?

December 9th, 2005, 11:34 AM	#15
Mike Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland OR Posts: 190	AJ, don't get too wound up. We love to see the work, just don't get dragged into the debate. It will rage long after we are dead and little mice are living in our skulls. Glen - you say this is an add on. I understand if you don't want to say, but about how much do you get for these? Mike