Time to reflect & learn.. So who's the best?

Doug Bennett · December 1st, 2005, 09:11 AM

Do you mean best at wedding video. AFAICS all the links in this thread point to highlight clips that do little to showcase the skills unique to wedding video. There was a post on VU recently about a book for grooms, very negative about video the guy sounded like he had an ax to grind, but one thing he did say, which I think this thread kind of supports is that "wedding videogarphers try to turn something they hate (wedding video) into something they love (movie directing)".

Michael Padilla · December 1st, 2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug Bennett

"wedding videogarphers try to turn something they hate (wedding video) into something they love (movie directing)".

If you mean the old style traditional documentary "home" movie look, than yes, I hate that... who doesn't. But if you are reffering to just the idea of weddings, well thats a different story, I personally love the subject of weddings; and like anything, why not make it a good movie, tell a story, show emotion, how about let's make it desireable to watch. I love what I do (and I'm not just talking about the end-product);

although I am not planning on doing weddings for more than 5 years :)

David Mathew Bonner · December 1st, 2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Bennett

Do you mean best at wedding video. AFAICS all the links in this thread point to highlight clips that do little to showcase the skills unique to wedding video. There was a post on VU recently about a book for grooms, very negative about video the guy sounded like he had an ax to grind, but one thing he did say, which I think this thread kind of supports is that "wedding videogarphers try to turn something they hate (wedding video) into something they love (movie directing)".

That is one person's narrow minded negative view and if he causes some people not to get videos , so be it. Their loss.
All kinds of video sells, from an uncle Charlie basement bargain to the Cinematic Multi shooter setup. From the MTV to the candid..
If you selling videos with you currant style and enjoy the work..and happy with the money you make. If your clients are happy and send you referrals and tell you they LOVE IT. Then what else matters. Don't fix something that isn't broke.

Doug Bennett · December 1st, 2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Padilla

although I am not planning on doing weddings for more than 5 years :)

touche Michael

:)

Michael Padilla · December 1st, 2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Bennett

touche Michael

:)

It's not really something to applaud, It just what's planned; as in I bought a "real" steadicam rig not so much for weddings (although I use it all the time) but rather for the practice; I would love to do steadicam work for indi/feature film. I do music videos for the clients and put so much focus on the little details because that's practice too; as in I would like to direct, film & edit (MTV style) music videos. I got the xl2 (not only) for the interchangable lens system & shoulder mount/pro-style evf and 24P, and I shoot in 24P. I've got a long way to go, so 5 years doing something I also love (but not dream about) is great for now, so while I am doing it, you better be sure I'm going to do my best and be the best sooner or later.

I feel very blessed to be able to make a living filming weddings, and if its what I'd always dreamed about, there would be no reason to stop.

Doug Bennett · December 1st, 2005, 01:00 PM

making a living is job 1. But improving a product can sometimes involve more than tweaking. 90% of weddings don't have video, and 90% of videos AFAICS are sold at a price that could not possibly support a professional business.

Doug Bennett · December 1st, 2005, 01:13 PM

sorry for misunderstanding

Michael Padilla · December 1st, 2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Bennett

sorry for misunderstanding

OH man don't worry about it! Thanks though!

Dennis Cummins · December 5th, 2005, 04:10 PM

Michael love your work. in my opinion i think you are by far the best out of that bunch.

Quick question, What is the name of that song on your show-reel piece? its ver poweful...

Michael Padilla · December 6th, 2005, 04:50 PM

many thanks... im in the middle of totally revamping the site with new stuff; I'll let you know when its up. Should be late this week.

As for the song... I got that from a friend, and to be totally honest I don't know if I can release that info. Sorry, but yeah... music (for me anyway) makes all the difference; when I edit to a song I just don't like or has no beat (or too much - HardROCK... go figure?), things just never turn out right, I get all frustrated and start doing other things because I just don't want to edit, I end up spending way too much time on the project, and then I'll sometimes call them up and ask for a different song :)

When you watch a feature film, listen to the songs they choose, often times they are alternative/modern songs that you may never hear on the radio... but they are often the best songs to edit to.

Chris M. Watson · December 7th, 2005, 04:48 PM

I think any list of great wedding videographers has to begin with Loi Bahn from Bluecore Media. His work is inspiring, emotional, and flawless and his editing is clean without alot of clutter.

I'll echo what Glen said. There is no way to truly say who the best is because of the wide range of styles out there. The thing the best all have in common is that they try new things and never stop evolving. That's what inspires me about them.

Chris Watson
Watson Videography
www.dynamovideo.com

Michael Padilla · December 12th, 2005, 03:34 AM

Hey all... :)

I just (mostly) finished our new website with more work posted.
Although for the time being the quicktime files will probably only work when using Firefox on a PC, or if you're on a Mac it should work no problem; I'll correct the issue soon so that IE users can view it.

As always, your feedback & constructive critizism is greatly appreciated (for the site/marketing & client work)

Thanks guys!!

oh yeah... the url is www.visualmasterpiece.com

Sean Seah · January 3rd, 2006, 08:22 PM

Wow, iris cinema feels very much "film" style. Their style matches the company name very well. I enjoyed watching em.Very different.

Michael Padilla · January 4th, 2006, 03:50 AM

Yeah, that's what I thought... they rock!!
For someone that aspires to film/indiefilm style stuff... I love it!

Sean Seah · January 4th, 2006, 04:03 AM

I cant watch your demos Michael.. I'll try it out at home tonight.I see the quicktime screen load n it stays there. Nothing else...

December 1st, 2005, 09:11 AM	#31
Doug Bennett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 260	best at what? Do you mean best at wedding video. AFAICS all the links in this thread point to highlight clips that do little to showcase the skills unique to wedding video. There was a post on VU recently about a book for grooms, very negative about video the guy sounded like he had an ax to grind, but one thing he did say, which I think this thread kind of supports is that "wedding videogarphers try to turn something they hate (wedding video) into something they love (movie directing)".

December 1st, 2005, 01:00 PM	#36
Doug Bennett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 260	absolutely right David making a living is job 1. But improving a product can sometimes involve more than tweaking. 90% of weddings don't have video, and 90% of videos AFAICS are sold at a price that could not possibly support a professional business.

December 1st, 2005, 01:13 PM	#37
Doug Bennett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 260	Michael - I thought you were joking sorry for misunderstanding

December 12th, 2005, 03:34 AM	#42
Michael Padilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: O.C., CA United States Posts: 337	just posted new site Hey all... :) I just (mostly) finished our new website with more work posted. Although for the time being the quicktime files will probably only work when using Firefox on a PC, or if you're on a Mac it should work no problem; I'll correct the issue soon so that IE users can view it. As always, your feedback & constructive critizism is greatly appreciated (for the site/marketing & client work) Thanks guys!! oh yeah... the url is www.visualmasterpiece.com

December 5th, 2005, 04:10 PM	#39
Dennis Cummins Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 123	Michael love your work. in my opinion i think you are by far the best out of that bunch. Quick question, What is the name of that song on your show-reel piece? its ver poweful...

December 6th, 2005, 04:50 PM	#40
Michael Padilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: O.C., CA United States Posts: 337	many thanks... im in the middle of totally revamping the site with new stuff; I'll let you know when its up. Should be late this week. As for the song... I got that from a friend, and to be totally honest I don't know if I can release that info. Sorry, but yeah... music (for me anyway) makes all the difference; when I edit to a song I just don't like or has no beat (or too much - HardROCK... go figure?), things just never turn out right, I get all frustrated and start doing other things because I just don't want to edit, I end up spending way too much time on the project, and then I'll sometimes call them up and ask for a different song :) When you watch a feature film, listen to the songs they choose, often times they are alternative/modern songs that you may never hear on the radio... but they are often the best songs to edit to.

December 7th, 2005, 04:48 PM	#41
Chris M. Watson Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 104	I think any list of great wedding videographers has to begin with Loi Bahn from Bluecore Media. His work is inspiring, emotional, and flawless and his editing is clean without alot of clutter. I'll echo what Glen said. There is no way to truly say who the best is because of the wide range of styles out there. The thing the best all have in common is that they try new things and never stop evolving. That's what inspires me about them. Chris Watson Watson Videography www.dynamovideo.com

January 3rd, 2006, 08:22 PM	#43
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	Wow, iris cinema feels very much "film" style. Their style matches the company name very well. I enjoyed watching em.Very different.

January 4th, 2006, 03:50 AM	#44
Michael Padilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: O.C., CA United States Posts: 337	Yeah, that's what I thought... they rock!! For someone that aspires to film/indiefilm style stuff... I love it!

January 4th, 2006, 04:03 AM	#45
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	I cant watch your demos Michael.. I'll try it out at home tonight.I see the quicktime screen load n it stays there. Nothing else...