The GH4r - V'Log & Europe's answer to the recording limit problem.

Steve Burkett · September 3rd, 2015, 08:45 AM

Looking at it from a different perspective. If dealers offered buyers a £200 discount on the C100, but at the cost of a 29 minute clip limit, how many would take them up on it.

If Panasonic are keeping the price down by £49 but limiting it to 29 minutes, I don't feel like thanking them for it. Especially as the price wil likely drop down that much just to give the camera a few months from launch.

Nigel Barker · September 3rd, 2015, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Burkett

Looking at it from a different perspective. If dealers offered buyers a £200 discount on the C100, but at the cost of a 29 minute clip limit, how many would take them up on it.

If Panasonic are keeping the price down by £49 but limiting it to 29 minutes, I don't feel like thanking them for it. Especially as the price wil likely drop down that much just to give the camera a few months from launch.

That was really the point that I was trying to make. Are Panasonic really going to lose sales if the price were £49 more? What is the competition in the stills market for the GH4? It's only people who won't use video who would be price sensitive. Most anyone paying that much for a video camera would happily pay £49 extra fro unlimited recording time.

Steve Burkett · September 3rd, 2015, 09:15 AM

Trouble is these things are never thought out that way. Most prices are set not to how much the camera is worth, but where it fits in the market and what price they can get away with charging. Oh they'll cover their costs of course, but if a 5D has a retail price Canon feels customers would pay, limiting the clip length just means more profit for them.

Canon paying this video tax on the 5D Mark iii, a camera largely used for Photography would seem a poor business decision on their part, but alas although i think the reverse is true with the GH4, Panasonic just followed suit and toed the same line. As have other manufacturers.

This trend extends even to Bridge Cameras that hold the same 29 minute limit in the USA. A case of a limit imposed by European Tax rules becoming a camera feature across the World. Weird.

Perhaps Panasonic are responding to feedback or maybe they feel imports are hurting the European market. I was thinking of adding a 2nd GH4 by buying from Hong Kong. Now I can stick with European suppliers, which no doubt Panasonic will prefer.

Noa Put · September 3rd, 2015, 09:18 AM

I believe with the gh4r Panasonic is the first one selling a dslr in Europe without recording limit, I can assume the GH5 will have no recording limit either, this gives them a unique advantage to other brands that still have that limit, I wonder if others will follow so we finally can get rid of this ridiculous limitation.

Steve Burkett · September 3rd, 2015, 09:31 AM

I think whether you want to buy the GH4r or not, its announcement for European users is quite significant. If they pass this feature down to their other cameras, then eventually other manufacturers will have to respond. Okay maybe not Canon, but others will.

September 3rd, 2015, 08:45 AM	#31
Steve Burkett Trustee Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Romsey, UK Posts: 1,261	Re: The GH4r - V'Log & Europe's answer to the recording limit problem. Looking at it from a different perspective. If dealers offered buyers a £200 discount on the C100, but at the cost of a 29 minute clip limit, how many would take them up on it. If Panasonic are keeping the price down by £49 but limiting it to 29 minutes, I don't feel like thanking them for it. Especially as the price wil likely drop down that much just to give the camera a few months from launch.

September 3rd, 2015, 09:15 AM	#33
Steve Burkett Trustee Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Romsey, UK Posts: 1,261	Re: The GH4r - V'Log & Europe's answer to the recording limit problem. Trouble is these things are never thought out that way. Most prices are set not to how much the camera is worth, but where it fits in the market and what price they can get away with charging. Oh they'll cover their costs of course, but if a 5D has a retail price Canon feels customers would pay, limiting the clip length just means more profit for them. Canon paying this video tax on the 5D Mark iii, a camera largely used for Photography would seem a poor business decision on their part, but alas although i think the reverse is true with the GH4, Panasonic just followed suit and toed the same line. As have other manufacturers. This trend extends even to Bridge Cameras that hold the same 29 minute limit in the USA. A case of a limit imposed by European Tax rules becoming a camera feature across the World. Weird. Perhaps Panasonic are responding to feedback or maybe they feel imports are hurting the European market. I was thinking of adding a 2nd GH4 by buying from Hong Kong. Now I can stick with European suppliers, which no doubt Panasonic will prefer.

September 3rd, 2015, 09:18 AM	#34
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: The GH4r - V'Log & Europe's answer to the recording limit problem. I believe with the gh4r Panasonic is the first one selling a dslr in Europe without recording limit, I can assume the GH5 will have no recording limit either, this gives them a unique advantage to other brands that still have that limit, I wonder if others will follow so we finally can get rid of this ridiculous limitation.

September 3rd, 2015, 09:31 AM	#35
Steve Burkett Trustee Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Romsey, UK Posts: 1,261	Re: The GH4r - V'Log & Europe's answer to the recording limit problem. I think whether you want to buy the GH4r or not, its announcement for European users is quite significant. If they pass this feature down to their other cameras, then eventually other manufacturers will have to respond. Okay maybe not Canon, but others will.