How can we change the norm, or are we trying to control to much

Jeff Harper · May 20th, 2014, 07:12 AM

I actually operate much as you describe Danny, I often get what I need without talking to anyone, but if conversation is necessary it's casual and chatty in style. We try and keep things low key and pleasant. We guide events as needed while trying maintain a low profile.

Steve Bleasdale · May 20th, 2014, 09:03 AM

Yes Jeff but come on there has to be times you get really mad!!! When some idiot does completely the opposite, like your three angles on the speeches going great and then the vendors turn the lights right down, Or the toast master stays right being the groom and best man when all he has to do is introduce and step back out of the way, rather than film his silly red jacket and big belly.
Or your just about to glide around the b&g on the dance floor then some crazy idiot comes in front and tries to do a stupid dance himself to the bride and is so drunk he cannot stand up, but nearly knocks your unmanned wide angle camera of its tripod.
Or the bride is giving her presents out in the morning and the old photog dives in and takes hold of her present in full flow with her mum and your filming and waiting for that last moment when they cuddle and the tog has just ruined the blasted shot. Oh yes i now put all the footage in as your thinking and go with the flow but it does make me mad, there are lots of other scenarios that make me mad but yes i just try to think ahead and get on with it. sure...

Dave Partington · May 20th, 2014, 10:28 AM

Even more reasons I'm doing fewer and fewer weddings Steve ;)

Jeff Harper · May 20th, 2014, 11:55 AM

Steve, you're absolutley right. Something or another does not go the way I would like at nearly every wedding. It may be a small thing or it could be something significant, and it can be extremely upsetting when it happens. Not pretending otherwise!

We can only try to find ways that work for us as individuals to get the best results we can, whilst not damaging relationships with others in the process. At least that is what I try to do.

It might be that you happen to encounter particularly difficult or egotistical photographer's, etc.. If that's the case I can understand your plight and feel badly for you! Nothing can make things more unpleasant than a rude photog. Happily most of mine are really great and easy to work with.

Steve Bleasdale · May 20th, 2014, 01:47 PM

Absolutely Jeff, and your points are greatly appreciated thanks. steve

May 20th, 2014, 07:12 AM	#16
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: How can we change the norm, or are we trying to control to much I actually operate much as you describe Danny, I often get what I need without talking to anyone, but if conversation is necessary it's casual and chatty in style. We try and keep things low key and pleasant. We guide events as needed while trying maintain a low profile. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

May 20th, 2014, 09:03 AM	#17
Steve Bleasdale Trustee Join Date: May 2010 Location: England liverpool Posts: 1,343	Re: How can we change the norm, or are we trying to control to much Yes Jeff but come on there has to be times you get really mad!!! When some idiot does completely the opposite, like your three angles on the speeches going great and then the vendors turn the lights right down, Or the toast master stays right being the groom and best man when all he has to do is introduce and step back out of the way, rather than film his silly red jacket and big belly. Or your just about to glide around the b&g on the dance floor then some crazy idiot comes in front and tries to do a stupid dance himself to the bride and is so drunk he cannot stand up, but nearly knocks your unmanned wide angle camera of its tripod. Or the bride is giving her presents out in the morning and the old photog dives in and takes hold of her present in full flow with her mum and your filming and waiting for that last moment when they cuddle and the tog has just ruined the blasted shot. Oh yes i now put all the footage in as your thinking and go with the flow but it does make me mad, there are lots of other scenarios that make me mad but yes i just try to think ahead and get on with it. sure...

May 20th, 2014, 10:28 AM	#18
Dave Partington Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: York, England Posts: 1,323	Re: How can we change the norm, or are we trying to control to much Even more reasons I'm doing fewer and fewer weddings Steve ;) __________________ Qualified UAV Pilot with CAA PFAW Aerial Photo / Aerial Video \| Corporate Video Production

May 20th, 2014, 11:55 AM	#19
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: How can we change the norm, or are we trying to control to much Steve, you're absolutley right. Something or another does not go the way I would like at nearly every wedding. It may be a small thing or it could be something significant, and it can be extremely upsetting when it happens. Not pretending otherwise! We can only try to find ways that work for us as individuals to get the best results we can, whilst not damaging relationships with others in the process. At least that is what I try to do. It might be that you happen to encounter particularly difficult or egotistical photographer's, etc.. If that's the case I can understand your plight and feel badly for you! Nothing can make things more unpleasant than a rude photog. Happily most of mine are really great and easy to work with. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

May 20th, 2014, 01:47 PM	#20
Steve Bleasdale Trustee Join Date: May 2010 Location: England liverpool Posts: 1,343	Re: How can we change the norm, or are we trying to control to much Absolutely Jeff, and your points are greatly appreciated thanks. steve