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Rochelle Morris · October 10th, 2013, 02:45 AM

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Adrian Tan · October 10th, 2013, 01:26 PM

Incidentally, the word "cinematographer" is highlighted in the advertising -- "A Workshop for Wedding Event Photographers & Cinematographers" -- and Rob Adams is lecturing on "Finding Story Where There is No Story - A Cinematographers Guide to Making Average Weddings Great". "So how do we as Cinematographers, give our clients what they expect from our awesome work when the wedding doesn't give us gold material to work with?"

I suspect "cinematographer" in this sort of sense is really a sort of admittedly pretty awkward and presumptuous back formation from "cinematic". I mean, people's hackles are probably less raised by videographers presuming to call their work "wedding films" or "filmic videos" or "cinematic videos". But what word do you use to describe a maker of "cinematic videos"? Would "filmmaker" do it justice, for instance, or does that bring its own problems?

Rochelle Morris · October 10th, 2013, 04:22 PM

Hi Adrian,

It's an interesting discussing what a person calls themselves & their work. In Australia, wedding clients still use the term 'videographer' (am sure this would be worldwide) yet sense the cinematic feel & difference to that of past wedding videos. I had read some of the comments in the discussion of the term 'cinematographer' and my thoughts are that a term to describe oneself is an individual decision - we produce wedding films, I call myself a wedding producer, yet would call my partner a cinematographer...

Our company produce corporate and wedding films, and to a client it could mean something or jack squat - lol. Ultimately in selling and differentiating oneself to competitors, I've always felt that the work speaks for itself rather than the words to label it...people latch onto a buzz word and everyone then uses it

Hope you can come to EDU next year!

John Knight · October 12th, 2013, 04:19 PM

I produce wedding videos with a cinematic price tag.

October 10th, 2013, 02:45 AM	#1
Rochelle Morris AVPA Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts: 373	Australian Workshop ~ Exposed Down Under 2014 An Exclusive Event with Masters of their Profession Exposed Down Under Presents in Sydney, Australia 2014 At your doorstep! An internationally recognised workshop! Take advantage of investing in your professional development! DON'T MISS OUT!!! Our latest newsletter detailing Speaker Presentations Exposed Down Under // Learn :: Share :: Grow :: Network :: Experience ~ A Workshop for the Imaging Community __________________ Preface Films - The Boss www.prefacefilms.com.au EDU www.exposeddownunder.com.au

October 10th, 2013, 01:26 PM	#2
Adrian Tan Trustee Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,149	Re: Australian Workshop ~ Exposed Down Under 2014 Incidentally, the word "cinematographer" is highlighted in the advertising -- "A Workshop for Wedding Event Photographers & Cinematographers" -- and Rob Adams is lecturing on "Finding Story Where There is No Story - A Cinematographers Guide to Making Average Weddings Great". "So how do we as Cinematographers, give our clients what they expect from our awesome work when the wedding doesn't give us gold material to work with?" I suspect "cinematographer" in this sort of sense is really a sort of admittedly pretty awkward and presumptuous back formation from "cinematic". I mean, people's hackles are probably less raised by videographers presuming to call their work "wedding films" or "filmic videos" or "cinematic videos". But what word do you use to describe a maker of "cinematic videos"? Would "filmmaker" do it justice, for instance, or does that bring its own problems?

October 10th, 2013, 04:22 PM	#3
Rochelle Morris AVPA Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts: 373	Re: Australian Workshop ~ Exposed Down Under 2014 Hi Adrian, It's an interesting discussing what a person calls themselves & their work. In Australia, wedding clients still use the term 'videographer' (am sure this would be worldwide) yet sense the cinematic feel & difference to that of past wedding videos. I had read some of the comments in the discussion of the term 'cinematographer' and my thoughts are that a term to describe oneself is an individual decision - we produce wedding films, I call myself a wedding producer, yet would call my partner a cinematographer... Our company produce corporate and wedding films, and to a client it could mean something or jack squat - lol. Ultimately in selling and differentiating oneself to competitors, I've always felt that the work speaks for itself rather than the words to label it...people latch onto a buzz word and everyone then uses it Hope you can come to EDU next year! __________________ Preface Films - The Boss www.prefacefilms.com.au EDU www.exposeddownunder.com.au

October 12th, 2013, 04:19 PM	#4
John Knight Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 588	Re: Australian Workshop ~ Exposed Down Under 2014 I produce wedding videos with a cinematic price tag.