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Johannes Soetandi · March 3rd, 2011, 02:26 AM

Gday. Based on experience, what do you think is the best showtime for SDE?

I've seen a lot of epic SDE includes the bridal waltz, which I reckon made a lot of impact to the build up of the SDE.. However, in most wedding I've been.. lots of guests left after the bridal waltz as only a few bunch would stick around and join the bridal party on the dance floor..

If the showtime is earlier (eg. during dessert), then you will miss out on the bridal waltz that could potentially bring the SDE to a whole new height..

Any input?

Warren Kawamoto · March 3rd, 2011, 03:57 AM

The earlier you can show it, the more impact it will have. For maximum impact, we sometimes show it just after the "grand entrance" of the bride and groom (into the reception room.) But it's a lot of stress....

Michael Simons · March 3rd, 2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kawamoto

The earlier you can show it, the more impact it will have. For maximum impact, we sometimes show it just after the "grand entrance" of the bride and groom (into the reception room.) But it's a lot of stress....

How many gigs of footage have you shot up to that point? My editor doesn't finish until after the cake cutting.

Johannes Soetandi · March 3rd, 2011, 09:11 AM

Really? The earlier?

I would've thought SDE would pack more punch at the end of the night.. kinda like the highlight of the evening..

Warren Kawamoto · March 3rd, 2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Simons

How many gigs of footage have you shot up to that point? My editor doesn't finish until after the cake cutting.

I don't count gigs, do I don't really know. We shoot EX-1, copy to laptop throughout the day, and edit with Edius 5.5 as we go. Editing is always completed by the time guests begin their meal.

Edius is fast because no transcoding of footage is necessary. Just put anything on the timeline and edit!

Dave Partington · March 3rd, 2011, 01:33 PM

Do you guys all have dedicated editors? We don't stop filming from the moment the ceremony starts until they all sit down to eat. There's no way I could edit and film at the same time ;)

Michael Simons · March 3rd, 2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Partington

Do you guys all have dedicated editors? We don't stop filming from the moment the ceremony starts until they all sit down to eat. There's no way I could edit and film at the same time ;)

I have a dedicated editor, but to be honest we don't finish the edit until very late in the reception. I even have the editor assist me during the day now so he is with me all day seeing what I shoot.

Johannes Soetandi · March 3rd, 2011, 06:40 PM

Okay gents.. we're slowly drifting away from the main question.. it's about 'when' is the best time to show SDE during the reception?

I shoot and edit but I am getting 2-3 hours break prior to reception so I'm sure I'd have enough time to finish editing around 9 to 9.30 pm.. but bridal waltz dont usually start until then. I haven't try showtime after that hour.. although this weekend will only be my 3rd & 4th SDE.

Don Bloom · March 3rd, 2011, 07:16 PM

while I don't do SDEs it's been my experience at the 'few' weddings I've done that most times if there is say a montage that's played it's done either just before or just after dinner before dessert is served. Mind you now that in my area 99% of weddings are sit down dinners and not buffets which could change the timeline a bit. Keep in mind that generally after the B&Gs first dance, father daughter dance and mother son dance which are considered the norm in my market people will start to leave and frankly most DJs and or band leaders are not of the mind set to stop the party and the flow of it to show any kind of video. there is more than a 50% cahnce of "losing the party" meaning a lot of people would leave and then the bride gets ticked off at the DJ because her party got ruined. Anyway, I don't how it is in your part of the world but around here the video stuff montage or SDE gets played pretty early.

Susanto Widjaja · March 4th, 2011, 08:05 AM

we play our sde between 9.30-10pm

Johannes Soetandi · March 5th, 2011, 04:43 PM

Santo, what time does the bridal waltz usually start and how many time you have between the waltz and showtime? I suspect you need atleast 20 mins to transfer, transcode, insert into FCP, and render. Would most people already hit the dance floor by then?

Susanto Widjaja · March 6th, 2011, 07:13 AM

it depends on the schedule. sometimes the bridal waltz happen right after the grand entrance. In that case we will most likely try harder to put it in the SDE. if the waltz happen much later at night, we will see whether we can manage to put it in somehow. I guess it really depends on whether your edit really dying to have the waltz in there or not. There is no rule that you have to put it in and its not all about the WOW effect that you managed to squeeze it in. Its more about whether it fits with the whole edit that you're doing.

I had some cases that we had waltz right in the beginning of the reception and I decided not to put it in because I didn't feel I needed to.

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Johannes Soetandi · March 7th, 2011, 07:44 PM

LOL, thanks for the two grand tips mate. I actually have never been to a wedding where the waltz is after the grand entrance.

I just did two SDE last weekend and received great response on both. Showed around 9.30 to 10 PM. However, I noticed my editing skill still needs some polishing. It took me 4-5 hours roughly to finish off. Quite concerning...

March 3rd, 2011, 02:26 AM	#1
Johannes Soetandi Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 387	Best time for SDE showtime Gday. Based on experience, what do you think is the best showtime for SDE? I've seen a lot of epic SDE includes the bridal waltz, which I reckon made a lot of impact to the build up of the SDE.. However, in most wedding I've been.. lots of guests left after the bridal waltz as only a few bunch would stick around and join the bridal party on the dance floor.. If the showtime is earlier (eg. during dessert), then you will miss out on the bridal waltz that could potentially bring the SDE to a whole new height.. Any input?

March 3rd, 2011, 03:57 AM	#2
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Re: Best time for SDE showtime The earlier you can show it, the more impact it will have. For maximum impact, we sometimes show it just after the "grand entrance" of the bride and groom (into the reception room.) But it's a lot of stress....

March 3rd, 2011, 09:11 AM	#4
Johannes Soetandi Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 387	Re: Best time for SDE showtime Really? The earlier? I would've thought SDE would pack more punch at the end of the night.. kinda like the highlight of the evening..

March 3rd, 2011, 01:33 PM	#6
Dave Partington Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: York, England Posts: 1,323	Re: Best time for SDE showtime Do you guys all have dedicated editors? We don't stop filming from the moment the ceremony starts until they all sit down to eat. There's no way I could edit and film at the same time ;) __________________ Qualified UAV Pilot with CAA PFAW Aerial Photo / Aerial Video \| Corporate Video Production

March 3rd, 2011, 06:40 PM	#8
Johannes Soetandi Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 387	Re: Best time for SDE showtime Okay gents.. we're slowly drifting away from the main question.. it's about 'when' is the best time to show SDE during the reception? I shoot and edit but I am getting 2-3 hours break prior to reception so I'm sure I'd have enough time to finish editing around 9 to 9.30 pm.. but bridal waltz dont usually start until then. I haven't try showtime after that hour.. although this weekend will only be my 3rd & 4th SDE.

March 3rd, 2011, 07:16 PM	#9
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Re: Best time for SDE showtime while I don't do SDEs it's been my experience at the 'few' weddings I've done that most times if there is say a montage that's played it's done either just before or just after dinner before dessert is served. Mind you now that in my area 99% of weddings are sit down dinners and not buffets which could change the timeline a bit. Keep in mind that generally after the B&Gs first dance, father daughter dance and mother son dance which are considered the norm in my market people will start to leave and frankly most DJs and or band leaders are not of the mind set to stop the party and the flow of it to show any kind of video. there is more than a 50% cahnce of "losing the party" meaning a lot of people would leave and then the bride gets ticked off at the DJ because her party got ruined. Anyway, I don't how it is in your part of the world but around here the video stuff montage or SDE gets played pretty early. __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

March 4th, 2011, 08:05 AM	#10
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Re: Best time for SDE showtime we play our sde between 9.30-10pm __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

March 5th, 2011, 04:43 PM	#11
Johannes Soetandi Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 387	Re: Best time for SDE showtime Santo, what time does the bridal waltz usually start and how many time you have between the waltz and showtime? I suspect you need atleast 20 mins to transfer, transcode, insert into FCP, and render. Would most people already hit the dance floor by then?

March 6th, 2011, 07:13 AM	#12
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Re: Best time for SDE showtime it depends on the schedule. sometimes the bridal waltz happen right after the grand entrance. In that case we will most likely try harder to put it in the SDE. if the waltz happen much later at night, we will see whether we can manage to put it in somehow. I guess it really depends on whether your edit really dying to have the waltz in there or not. There is no rule that you have to put it in and its not all about the WOW effect that you managed to squeeze it in. Its more about whether it fits with the whole edit that you're doing. I had some cases that we had waltz right in the beginning of the reception and I decided not to put it in because I didn't feel I needed to. my two grand __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

March 7th, 2011, 07:44 PM	#13
Johannes Soetandi Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 387	Re: Best time for SDE showtime LOL, thanks for the two grand tips mate. I actually have never been to a wedding where the waltz is after the grand entrance. I just did two SDE last weekend and received great response on both. Showed around 9.30 to 10 PM. However, I noticed my editing skill still needs some polishing. It took me 4-5 hours roughly to finish off. Quite concerning...