dealing with wind

Travis Cossel · November 28th, 2009, 12:32 PM

I didn't have time to read the whole thread, but here are my thoughts. The best way to deal with wind is to deal with it before you record. That means you need to have fuzzy wind protectors on all of your mics. Don't rely on the cheap sponge/foam covers. They don't work so well.

Paul Mailath · November 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Bloom

I sometimes wish they did but the only thing I've seen is either foam or furry balls. Oh well.

doesn't that mean you're shooting from the wrong angle? :-)

I found the answer on EBay - a blimp from India, they even include pictorial evidence that it's fine for wedding use!

How's that for unobtrusive? and with the soundie next to you you have the added benefit of completly blocking the photogs shot!

Don Bloom · November 28th, 2009, 04:19 PM

"doesn't that mean you're shooting from the wrong angle? :-)"

Paul, I refuse to comment on that only because I'm laughing so hard!

As for the boom, yeah, I can see it now. No actually I can't. Wow, bringing something like in to a church would take some "fur" if you get my drift! ;-)

Paul Mailath · December 1st, 2009, 12:49 AM

okay gentlemen stop me before I go too far with this idea...

I want a mike close to the couple but protected from the wind (just for outside use)

Audio-Technica | Pro 24 Stereo Condenser Microphone | PRO 24

If I take something like this and hook it up to a zoom or other recorder and position it about waist high directly in front of the celebrant between the bride & groom (forward of them actually - we don't want to stop them getting married) - that should work.

I put some sort of windcover/blimp over the mike and we're right to go

I just have to make it invisible.... so what about a small slim stand with a wedding symbol on the front that widens out as it reaches the top (maybe some space to put flowers)

From the guests point of view it's a white stand that forms a focal point between the bride & groom - from the back it's a housing for a mike & wind cover that's only seen by the celebrant, bride & groom.

K-Tek | Windscreen - Slip-On Windscreen (Tiny) | Z-FSO-T | B&H

I've attached a couple of images of the shape I'm thinking of - if the basic design is right it will look like it's meant to be there. at the right height & size it doesn't obtsruct the ceremony and 'goes unnoticed' Of course you'd have to show them at a rehearsal so they were comfortable with the idea but I usually attend those anyway.

Am I way off the mark? - is it worth developing the idea?

let's not get hung up on the 'right' mike or blimp - I just want to put the general idea out there to see if it's got legs.

Colin Rowe · December 1st, 2009, 08:12 AM

Try a Rycote Mini Screen and windjammer combination, Rycote - Miniscreen by far the most effective solution I have ever used for on camera mics. I can film on the wild North Cornwall cliffs, and all but kill any wind noise. Dont forget to cover every joint, switch, xlr point on the mic with tape, or foam. These areas, left uncovered will render any wind protection you may have useless.

Matthew Craggs · December 1st, 2009, 09:16 AM

I don't mean to hijack this thread since the focus is on eliminating wind before you record (and we should all agree that that is priority number one), but I am editing a wedding with quite a bit of wind myself, and have found great success using Soundtrack Pro's Noise Print/Reduce Noise tool. Do a Google search and you will find a number of great tutorials about this feature.

November 28th, 2009, 12:32 PM	#16
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	I didn't have time to read the whole thread, but here are my thoughts. The best way to deal with wind is to deal with it before you record. That means you need to have fuzzy wind protectors on all of your mics. Don't rely on the cheap sponge/foam covers. They don't work so well. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

November 28th, 2009, 04:19 PM	#18
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	"doesn't that mean you're shooting from the wrong angle? :-)" Paul, I refuse to comment on that only because I'm laughing so hard! As for the boom, yeah, I can see it now. No actually I can't. Wow, bringing something like in to a church would take some "fur" if you get my drift! ;-) __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

December 1st, 2009, 12:49 AM	#19
Paul Mailath Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Coast - NSW, Australia Posts: 1,606	okay gentlemen stop me before I go too far with this idea... I want a mike close to the couple but protected from the wind (just for outside use) Audio-Technica \| Pro 24 Stereo Condenser Microphone \| PRO 24 If I take something like this and hook it up to a zoom or other recorder and position it about waist high directly in front of the celebrant between the bride & groom (forward of them actually - we don't want to stop them getting married) - that should work. I put some sort of windcover/blimp over the mike and we're right to go I just have to make it invisible.... so what about a small slim stand with a wedding symbol on the front that widens out as it reaches the top (maybe some space to put flowers) From the guests point of view it's a white stand that forms a focal point between the bride & groom - from the back it's a housing for a mike & wind cover that's only seen by the celebrant, bride & groom. K-Tek \| Windscreen - Slip-On Windscreen (Tiny) \| Z-FSO-T \| B&H I've attached a couple of images of the shape I'm thinking of - if the basic design is right it will look like it's meant to be there. at the right height & size it doesn't obtsruct the ceremony and 'goes unnoticed' Of course you'd have to show them at a rehearsal so they were comfortable with the idea but I usually attend those anyway. Am I way off the mark? - is it worth developing the idea? let's not get hung up on the 'right' mike or blimp - I just want to put the general idea out there to see if it's got legs. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ Cheers - Paul M. www.perbenyik.com

December 1st, 2009, 08:12 AM	#20
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	Try a Rycote Mini Screen and windjammer combination, Rycote - Miniscreen by far the most effective solution I have ever used for on camera mics. I can film on the wild North Cornwall cliffs, and all but kill any wind noise. Dont forget to cover every joint, switch, xlr point on the mic with tape, or foam. These areas, left uncovered will render any wind protection you may have useless. Attached Images __________________ Colin

December 1st, 2009, 09:16 AM	#21
Matthew Craggs Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Welland, Ontario Posts: 311	I don't mean to hijack this thread since the focus is on eliminating wind before you record (and we should all agree that that is priority number one), but I am editing a wedding with quite a bit of wind myself, and have found great success using Soundtrack Pro's Noise Print/Reduce Noise tool. Do a Google search and you will find a number of great tutorials about this feature.