3D Same Day Edit Picture PROOF at DVinfo.net

Michael Gebben · November 16th, 2009, 09:56 PM

So I don't have the video online yet but at the last wedding of this year my buddy shot in 3D and we showed an SDE in 3D at the end of the night. We also did another completely different SDE also. I will post more details and the video later. I don't know all the answers so I'll have to ask my friend. In the meantime we have been shooting 3D for awhile check out our 3D wedding demo

But here is a picture from the wedding :)

Andrew Smith · November 17th, 2009, 12:45 AM

Which brings a question ... where do you get the 3D glasses from?

Andrew

Bill Vincent · November 19th, 2009, 04:59 PM

I tried using some old Monsters vs. Aliens 3D glasses and was not getting the effect. I don't have any others I can try. :(

Prashanna Jayaseelan · November 19th, 2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Vincent

I tried using some old Monsters vs. Aliens 3D glasses and was not getting the effect. I don't have any others I can try. :(

I have my glasses from watching the same movie... still tried it and sadly it did not work. Damn it! I really want to have a look at this.

Jason Bowers · November 20th, 2009, 12:30 PM

Pretty neat effect. Too bad there is no color though.

Richard Wakefield · November 21st, 2009, 09:27 AM

don't ask me why but i have a stack of about 20 x 3D glasses here at home with me! shame i can't pass them round so you can all share the experience!

anyway, really very good! i felt the moving/gliding/crane shots really best showed off the effect

thanks so much for sharing!

Andrew Smith · November 22nd, 2009, 07:37 AM

Richard,

There are a number of technologies/schemes (red/green, red/blue, red/cyan, circular polarised, chromadepth) for the 3D glasses and viewing systems. Can you tell us what type of glasses you have been using?

Andrew

Richard Wakefield · November 22nd, 2009, 09:16 AM

sure thing andrew...just the old-school red and cyan ones

cheers

Patrick Moreau · November 24th, 2009, 12:13 PM

so here is my question. is this good // not the film itself, but the idea of it?

it seems like a good portion of us in the industry and really focusing on our branding, our overall production value, and our storytelling. does 3d enhance or take away from these things?

to me, it seems more like a gimmick or an effect, but that is my gut reaction. i don't know if i would want to put colored glasses between the viewer and the screen as well, it feels like that would separate them psychologically from the piece as well.

so i looked to see what movies were being released on 3d to see if they were the types of films that really exemplified what we are trying to do. this is what i found. i would love to hear others thoughts.

P.

March 27th 2009: Monsters vs. Aliens: A reinvention of the classic ’50s monster movie.

May 22nd 2009: James Cameron’s Avatar: A band of humans are pitted in a battle against a distant planet’s indigenous population.

November 6th 2009: A Christmas Carol

November 20th 2009: How to Train Your Dragon: Based on the 2003 children’s novel by British author Cressida Cowell, about the adventures of Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III - The teenage son of a Viking chieftain, who must capture a dragon for a rite of passage.

Ken Diewert · November 24th, 2009, 06:00 PM

While I enjoy Michael Gebbens work, and appreciate his ideas with respect to his SDE business model, I don't see a mainstream future for 3d weddings. As a novelty for the odd client, sure. But to invest in this technology for wedding work? Not me, that's for sure.

I can't imagine any great love stories that would be enhanced by 3D, and that's what wedding videos are. What actually occurs at a wedding that would look better in 3D? The bouquet/garter toss?

Maybe in the future 3D will become the norm in sports broadcasting and Action movies, but Love stories.... What would be the point?

Andrew Smith · November 24th, 2009, 06:41 PM

Good sober words. After investing in HD cameras and workflow, do we really need to go to 3D?

Andrew

Jason Bowers · November 25th, 2009, 02:51 PM

HI P,
I think this is a gimmick and not something that will fly in the wedding industry. Most 3d films are either action or horror. You will never find a 3d drama because it detracts from the story. The viewer is expected to feel an emotional response to the character much like wedding cinema and a pointless effect takes away that emotion. Much the same way too much steadicam/slider/jib can. The reason it works in action/horror is because of the adrenaline rush while watching and having that 3D effect feeds into the rush. You mention storytelling which seems to be this years point of emphasis in all wedding work and really puts most to look alike and there by no one is standing out anymore. Your thoughts?

Michael Greenberg · December 27th, 2009, 10:40 AM

I think this is perfect start. Guys, we can talk about connection and feeling e.t.c in wedding videos but at the end of the day wedding video is a comercial product and 3D creats new product on the market.

Bill Vincent · December 27th, 2009, 12:21 PM

I love to see (and try) new ideas that hit the marketplace. Not all will stick. Not all will be able to stand the test of time. But, without innovation there is no growth, and growth is good. I give kudos to pioneers willing to give this (and other new and novel ideas) a try!

Bart Wierzbicki · December 27th, 2009, 01:06 PM

Hey Michael,

Great vid !
What camera do you use for recording 3D ?
And if you have recorded it ... can you convert it to normal colors so it can be watched without special glasses ?

November 16th, 2009, 09:56 PM	#1
Michael Gebben Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 64	3D Same Day Edit Picture PROOF So I don't have the video online yet but at the last wedding of this year my buddy shot in 3D and we showed an SDE in 3D at the end of the night. We also did another completely different SDE also. I will post more details and the video later. I don't know all the answers so I'll have to ask my friend. In the meantime we have been shooting 3D for awhile check out our 3D wedding demo 3D Wedding Demo! on Vimeo But here is a picture from the wedding :) Attached Thumbnails

November 22nd, 2009, 09:16 AM	#8
Richard Wakefield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 680	sure thing andrew...just the old-school red and cyan ones cheers Last edited by Richard Wakefield; November 22nd, 2009 at 12:59 PM.

November 24th, 2009, 12:13 PM	#9
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	so here is my question. is this good // not the film itself, but the idea of it? it seems like a good portion of us in the industry and really focusing on our branding, our overall production value, and our storytelling. does 3d enhance or take away from these things? to me, it seems more like a gimmick or an effect, but that is my gut reaction. i don't know if i would want to put colored glasses between the viewer and the screen as well, it feels like that would separate them psychologically from the piece as well. so i looked to see what movies were being released on 3d to see if they were the types of films that really exemplified what we are trying to do. this is what i found. i would love to hear others thoughts. P. March 27th 2009: Monsters vs. Aliens: A reinvention of the classic ’50s monster movie. May 22nd 2009: James Cameron’s Avatar: A band of humans are pitted in a battle against a distant planet’s indigenous population. November 6th 2009: A Christmas Carol November 20th 2009: How to Train Your Dragon: Based on the 2003 children’s novel by British author Cressida Cowell, about the adventures of Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III - The teenage son of a Viking chieftain, who must capture a dragon for a rite of passage. __________________ site // www.stillmotion.ca blog // www.stillmotionblog.com edu // www.stillmotionexperience.com

November 24th, 2009, 06:00 PM	#10
Ken Diewert Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 1,200	While I enjoy Michael Gebbens work, and appreciate his ideas with respect to his SDE business model, I don't see a mainstream future for 3d weddings. As a novelty for the odd client, sure. But to invest in this technology for wedding work? Not me, that's for sure. I can't imagine any great love stories that would be enhanced by 3D, and that's what wedding videos are. What actually occurs at a wedding that would look better in 3D? The bouquet/garter toss? Maybe in the future 3D will become the norm in sports broadcasting and Action movies, but Love stories.... What would be the point? __________________ C100, 5DMk2, FCPX

November 17th, 2009, 12:45 AM	#2
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,072	Which brings a question ... where do you get the 3D glasses from? Andrew

November 19th, 2009, 04:59 PM	#3
Bill Vincent Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 253	I tried using some old Monsters vs. Aliens 3D glasses and was not getting the effect. I don't have any others I can try. :(

November 20th, 2009, 12:30 PM	#5
Jason Bowers Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thunder Bay, ON. Canada Posts: 374	Pretty neat effect. Too bad there is no color though.

November 21st, 2009, 09:27 AM	#6
Richard Wakefield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 680	don't ask me why but i have a stack of about 20 x 3D glasses here at home with me! shame i can't pass them round so you can all share the experience! anyway, really very good! i felt the moving/gliding/crane shots really best showed off the effect thanks so much for sharing!

November 22nd, 2009, 07:37 AM	#7
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,072	Richard, There are a number of technologies/schemes (red/green, red/blue, red/cyan, circular polarised, chromadepth) for the 3D glasses and viewing systems. Can you tell us what type of glasses you have been using? Andrew

November 24th, 2009, 06:41 PM	#11
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,072	Good sober words. After investing in HD cameras and workflow, do we really need to go to 3D? Andrew

November 25th, 2009, 02:51 PM	#12
Jason Bowers Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thunder Bay, ON. Canada Posts: 374	HI P, I think this is a gimmick and not something that will fly in the wedding industry. Most 3d films are either action or horror. You will never find a 3d drama because it detracts from the story. The viewer is expected to feel an emotional response to the character much like wedding cinema and a pointless effect takes away that emotion. Much the same way too much steadicam/slider/jib can. The reason it works in action/horror is because of the adrenaline rush while watching and having that 3D effect feeds into the rush. You mention storytelling which seems to be this years point of emphasis in all wedding work and really puts most to look alike and there by no one is standing out anymore. Your thoughts?

December 27th, 2009, 10:40 AM	#13
Michael Greenberg New Boot Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Monteal Posts: 6	I think this is perfect start. Guys, we can talk about connection and feeling e.t.c in wedding videos but at the end of the day wedding video is a comercial product and 3D creats new product on the market.

December 27th, 2009, 12:21 PM	#14
Bill Vincent Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 253	I love to see (and try) new ideas that hit the marketplace. Not all will stick. Not all will be able to stand the test of time. But, without innovation there is no growth, and growth is good. I give kudos to pioneers willing to give this (and other new and novel ideas) a try!

December 27th, 2009, 01:06 PM	#15
Bart Wierzbicki Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Zonhoven Posts: 153	Hey Michael, Great vid ! What camera do you use for recording 3D ? And if you have recorded it ... can you convert it to normal colors so it can be watched without special glasses ?