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Dave Kasprzyk · May 16th, 2005, 02:33 PM

Hello,
I'm getting ready to buy the TD902VS - videographers special 2-person wireless intercom system for $375.

Is there another way that is less expensive to have good quality, effective communication between videographers at an event?

Your help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Dave K.

Jimmy McKenzie · May 16th, 2005, 02:43 PM

FRS radios with earbuds and vox activated send. Be sure to find the variety that allow you to have the page mode set to silent.

Craig Terott · May 16th, 2005, 02:45 PM

I have a set (TD-902). I love it. You have to bend the headphones to a custom fit when you get them BTW - right out of the box they didn't fit. The range is excellent and you can even wisper and there's no problem hearing. I think it was worth the money.

I hate to disagree with Jimmy but VOX blows. FULL DUPLEX is best because it's just like a telephone - you can talk and hear at the same time and no one gets cut off.

Dave Kasprzyk · May 16th, 2005, 08:07 PM

Thanks, guys.
All other suggestions are appreciated.

Aanarav Sareen · May 16th, 2005, 10:23 PM

Haven't done this with weddings, but I shoot some stuff for local TV stations and since a lot of the events are on weekends, I prefer to use a cell phone with a headset (free weekend minutes) =D

Gregory Doi · May 17th, 2005, 01:54 AM

The Eartec is a great system. We have used them for shoots and they have worked flawlessly.

hehe i tried vox and frs and the hands free phone. ill never do it again. Just invest the money for a good intercom system. it will be well worth it in the long run.

Jimmy McKenzie · May 17th, 2005, 05:58 AM

Craig: You never have to say you are sorry for offering a counter position to anything I keyboard upon this board. I just love the open dialogue and there is never any pressure when that 2 way info exchange happens. I love it! And I'll be the first to stand up and say how much I have learned and put into use from this great resource! Keep the tips coming.

The other less expensive route to go, as you indicated that you might like to keep costs down, is the vhf set from the low end electronics store. Clunky, short range and to concur with Craig, very true, the vox is poor.

Dave Kasprzyk · May 17th, 2005, 07:49 AM

Okay then. Thank you all for the input.

Tim Borek · May 17th, 2005, 10:19 AM

At the wedding rehearsal, I get my shots approved by B&G, so I've never felt the need for voice communication between my assistant and I once the ceremony has begun. We decide before the wedding who is covering what, and things work out fine; when I find during editing, however, that we're both zooming or panning at the same time, I patch up the timeline with cutaways shot before the wedding. I'm not saying that intercoms don't have their place in event videography, I just think that with planning, there should be little to talk about during the wedding ceremony.

Maybe I'll rent an intercom for my next multi-videographer shoot. If this will help me shoot better footage, I will invest in an intercom system. Heh. I like the cell phone idea for starters.

T.J.

Alastair Weller · May 26th, 2005, 11:43 AM

I use PMR446's (Motorola XTNs) over here for any event I'm managing. I tend to stick to vox along with anyone whose mobile with a camera.
Static cameras (including tripods) I use a stealth earpiece allowing them a ptt button on their sleeve cuff.

Regards

Alastair

Tom Bolia · March 29th, 2006, 05:44 AM

Does anyone know how the Eartec models compare with the Clear-com or the more expensive Porta-com sets?

I thought I read more about these Eartecs in another thread, but not much came up in the search forums function.

Mike Cook · March 29th, 2006, 09:00 AM

The eartec are good for the price. You really won't get much more until you are spending $1000.

My shoot partner and I have been working together for years. We plan and communicate better than just about anybody else I have seen. With that in mind, the intercom was one of the best investments we have made.

Planning shots ahead of time is essential but it does not replace an intercom. Free and open (read: duplex) communication allows all kinds of control over shots. We can get so many more CU's and detail shots while making sure we are covered by the other shooter. He locks, I roam and vice versa.

They also are priceless when things start going sideways. I would not shoot a wedding without one again.

Roger Mason · March 29th, 2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

You never have to say you are sorry for offering a counter position to anything I keyboard upon this board.

As Lumford said in the cinematic classic, "Yeah, I'm going to sort of have to kind of .... disagree with you on that."

Matt Browning · March 30th, 2006, 08:36 PM

Lumburg... it was Lumburg. Sorry that I haven't nothing technical to contribute to the post.

Tom Bolia · April 14th, 2006, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Cook

The eartec are good for the price. You really won't get much more until you are spending $1000.

My shoot partner and I have been working together for years. We plan and communicate better than just about anybody else I have seen. With that in mind, the intercom was one of the best investments we have made.

Planning shots ahead of time is essential but it does not replace an intercom. Free and open (read: duplex) communication allows all kinds of control over shots. We can get so many more CU's and detail shots while making sure we are covered by the other shooter. He locks, I roam and vice versa.

They also are priceless when things start going sideways. I would not shoot a wedding without one again.

I just bought theTD900 Pro series to test them out. They did not work. I am guessing that I have to set my own frequency on each one. The reception is not all that clear, but I will call Eartec on Monday to see what the issues may be. I had expected to use them "right out of the box" after charging up the batteries, but that was not the case. The headphones are also smaller than they appear in the photos. I hope that they will work out, but I am rather disappointed at my initial trial. :o(

May 16th, 2005, 02:33 PM	#1
Dave Kasprzyk New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 13	Videographers Wireless communication system Hello, I'm getting ready to buy the TD902VS - videographers special 2-person wireless intercom system for $375. Is there another way that is less expensive to have good quality, effective communication between videographers at an event? Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Dave K. __________________ Dave K

May 16th, 2005, 08:07 PM	#4
Dave Kasprzyk New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 13	Thanks, guys. All other suggestions are appreciated. __________________ Dave K

May 16th, 2005, 10:23 PM	#5
Aanarav Sareen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NJ, US Posts: 183	Haven't done this with weddings, but I shoot some stuff for local TV stations and since a lot of the events are on weekends, I prefer to use a cell phone with a headset (free weekend minutes) =D __________________ http://www.sareen.tv

May 17th, 2005, 07:49 AM	#8
Dave Kasprzyk New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 13	Okay then. Thank you all for the input. __________________ Dave K

May 17th, 2005, 10:19 AM	#9
Tim Borek Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 353	Do I need an intercom? At the wedding rehearsal, I get my shots approved by B&G, so I've never felt the need for voice communication between my assistant and I once the ceremony has begun. We decide before the wedding who is covering what, and things work out fine; when I find during editing, however, that we're both zooming or panning at the same time, I patch up the timeline with cutaways shot before the wedding. I'm not saying that intercoms don't have their place in event videography, I just think that with planning, there should be little to talk about during the wedding ceremony. Maybe I'll rent an intercom for my next multi-videographer shoot. If this will help me shoot better footage, I will invest in an intercom system. Heh. I like the cell phone idea for starters. T.J.

May 16th, 2005, 02:43 PM	#2
Jimmy McKenzie Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waterloo Ontario Posts: 721	FRS radios with earbuds and vox activated send. Be sure to find the variety that allow you to have the page mode set to silent.

May 16th, 2005, 02:45 PM	#3
Craig Terott Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 691	I have a set (TD-902). I love it. You have to bend the headphones to a custom fit when you get them BTW - right out of the box they didn't fit. The range is excellent and you can even wisper and there's no problem hearing. I think it was worth the money. I hate to disagree with Jimmy but VOX blows. FULL DUPLEX is best because it's just like a telephone - you can talk and hear at the same time and no one gets cut off.

May 17th, 2005, 01:54 AM	#6
Gregory Doi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 70	The Eartec is a great system. We have used them for shoots and they have worked flawlessly. hehe i tried vox and frs and the hands free phone. ill never do it again. Just invest the money for a good intercom system. it will be well worth it in the long run.

May 17th, 2005, 05:58 AM	#7
Jimmy McKenzie Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waterloo Ontario Posts: 721	Craig: You never have to say you are sorry for offering a counter position to anything I keyboard upon this board. I just love the open dialogue and there is never any pressure when that 2 way info exchange happens. I love it! And I'll be the first to stand up and say how much I have learned and put into use from this great resource! Keep the tips coming. The other less expensive route to go, as you indicated that you might like to keep costs down, is the vhf set from the low end electronics store. Clunky, short range and to concur with Craig, very true, the vox is poor.

May 26th, 2005, 11:43 AM	#10
Alastair Weller Tourist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Worthing, West Sussex, UK Posts: 1	I use PMR446's (Motorola XTNs) over here for any event I'm managing. I tend to stick to vox along with anyone whose mobile with a camera. Static cameras (including tripods) I use a stealth earpiece allowing them a ptt button on their sleeve cuff. Regards Alastair

March 29th, 2006, 05:44 AM	#11
Tom Bolia Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Posts: 86	Does anyone know how the Eartec models compare with the Clear-com or the more expensive Porta-com sets? I thought I read more about these Eartecs in another thread, but not much came up in the search forums function.

March 29th, 2006, 09:00 AM	#12
Mike Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland OR Posts: 190	The eartec are good for the price. You really won't get much more until you are spending $1000. My shoot partner and I have been working together for years. We plan and communicate better than just about anybody else I have seen. With that in mind, the intercom was one of the best investments we have made. Planning shots ahead of time is essential but it does not replace an intercom. Free and open (read: duplex) communication allows all kinds of control over shots. We can get so many more CU's and detail shots while making sure we are covered by the other shooter. He locks, I roam and vice versa. They also are priceless when things start going sideways. I would not shoot a wedding without one again. __________________ Mike

March 30th, 2006, 08:36 PM	#14
Matt Browning New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Location: Richmond, KY Posts: 24	Lumburg... it was Lumburg. Sorry that I haven't nothing technical to contribute to the post.