Photosession montage at DVinfo.net

Glen Elliott · February 3rd, 2005, 10:22 PM

Photosession montage (used as a seguay to the formal entrances after the recessional)

http://home.comcast.net/~g.elliott3/...tosession2.mpg

Allen Liu · February 3rd, 2005, 11:17 PM

Simply Stunning, as always. Great Stuff, Glen!

On another note, I've been meaning to ask: what sort of color correction steps/techniques do you use? The skin tones and contrast appear to be boosted up somewhat. Whatever it is you are doing - it looks amazing. (I apologize if this has already been addressed, but I don't recall you sharing this info in the past)

Glen Elliott · February 4th, 2005, 05:15 AM

Thank you.

In post after I’m finished assembling my edit- I’ll go back for one more sweep for visual fx changes. I’ll open my histogram to study the luminance curves in every shot and adjust my levels from there. I usually “crush” my blacks a bit more than necessary and get back a little shadow detail with the glow tool. I try to create a very rich contrasty picture. Looks much better on production monitor or tv. MPG or WMV doesn’t do it justice. Also, the soft darkening vignette appears darker on a computer monitor than on either of these displays.

Patrick Moreau · February 4th, 2005, 10:09 AM

What software and machine did you edit this with?
Was it shot with your 170?

Glen Elliott · February 4th, 2005, 10:38 AM

All the shots you saw were actually from my VX2100, and a few of my assistant's DVC-80.

Vegas 5 on a P4

Alexis Vazquez · February 4th, 2005, 11:38 AM

You are killing me, man.
Thanks God you are not in my area--
No words, except WOW. and again WOW, but a big WOW

Congrats, I love it .

Alexis

Dan Frievalt · February 4th, 2005, 12:38 PM

I am new to this level of videography and to this board, boy
this is some great stuff!! Really something to help me "raise
the bar" of the shooting and editing that I am doing.

Glen you do a fantastic job...very inspiring!

I am using FCP and I was wondering how you added the
dark vignette effect?

Glen Elliott · February 5th, 2005, 09:02 AM

Thank you. In Vegas 5 I added a "Generated Media- Gradient- Eliptical, Black to transparent".

Craig Seeman · February 5th, 2005, 11:48 AM

Glen,

Are you using a stabilizer of some sort (other than OIS)?

I notice you seem to slow everything down. What speeds are you chosing (50%, 25%, Other). I'm sure there's a variety in there but wondering what you're chosing.

Are you softening the shots in any way? It can be hard to tell on compressed web video but some seem to be soft focus (deliberate, happy accident, filter hard or software, or?)?

Ben Lynn · February 5th, 2005, 04:49 PM

That really looked sharp Glen.

Great shots and editing both!

Ben

Glen Elliott · February 6th, 2005, 03:29 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Craig Seeman : Glen,

Are you using a stabilizer of some sort (other than OIS)?
No. Every shot in this piece was handheld. I have a glidecam 4000 pro that I vowed to use more often this upcoming season, however, I still feel I do a great deal of my shots handheld. It's actually my preference.

I notice you seem to slow everything down. What speeds are you chosing (50%, 25%, Other). I'm sure there's a variety in there but wondering what you're chosing.
I don't have a set motion percentage speed. I go by how the footage works and the tempo of the song. I always change the speed of the clips via the Ctrl+Drag method in Vegas, which is subsequently less scientific in regards to actual percentage #'s. That said I believe most of them are around 25% speed for this particular piece.

Are you softening the shots in any way? It can be hard to tell on compressed web video but some seem to be soft focus (deliberate, happy accident, filter hard or software, or?)?
Everything about the look of the image is deliberate. No soft focus...just a subtle glow filter on some clips which help smooth out skin tones and brighten whites. I'm big into increasing the contrast of my footage- as I find the stock footage tends to lack richness on the left side of the histogram (blacks).

-->>>

Bob Harotunian · February 9th, 2005, 12:40 PM

Glen,
Super job and very moving. Just curious, do you revert to a documentary style for the remainder of the event? Also, I think there was one scene where you slowly rotated the camera upright from a dutch angle? Very good, actually amazing, handheld work without a stabilizer.
Bob

Glen Elliott · February 9th, 2005, 02:06 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bob Harotunian : Glen,
Super job and very moving. Just curious, do you revert to a documentary style for the remainder of the event? Also, I think there was one scene where you slowly rotated the camera upright from a dutch angle? Very good, actually amazing, handheld work without a stabilizer.
Bob -->>>

Actually the majority of the program is documentary or photojournalistic style (however you want to describe it).

I usually include 3 montage style segments such as this: Preceremony (bridal prep), Photosession, and Highlights..at the end.

Thank you.

February 3rd, 2005, 10:22 PM	#1
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Photosession montage Photosession montage (used as a seguay to the formal entrances after the recessional) http://home.comcast.net/~g.elliott3/...tosession2.mpg

February 3rd, 2005, 11:17 PM	#2
Allen Liu New Boot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 10	Simply Stunning, as always. Great Stuff, Glen! On another note, I've been meaning to ask: what sort of color correction steps/techniques do you use? The skin tones and contrast appear to be boosted up somewhat. Whatever it is you are doing - it looks amazing. (I apologize if this has already been addressed, but I don't recall you sharing this info in the past)

February 4th, 2005, 05:15 AM	#3
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Thank you. In post after I’m finished assembling my edit- I’ll go back for one more sweep for visual fx changes. I’ll open my histogram to study the luminance curves in every shot and adjust my levels from there. I usually “crush” my blacks a bit more than necessary and get back a little shadow detail with the glow tool. I try to create a very rich contrasty picture. Looks much better on production monitor or tv. MPG or WMV doesn’t do it justice. Also, the soft darkening vignette appears darker on a computer monitor than on either of these displays.

February 4th, 2005, 10:09 AM	#4
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	What software and machine did you edit this with? Was it shot with your 170?

February 4th, 2005, 10:38 AM	#5
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	All the shots you saw were actually from my VX2100, and a few of my assistant's DVC-80. Vegas 5 on a P4

February 4th, 2005, 11:38 AM	#6
Alexis Vazquez Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 188	You are killing me, man. Thanks God you are not in my area-- No words, except WOW. and again WOW, but a big WOW Congrats, I love it . Alexis

February 4th, 2005, 12:38 PM	#7
Dan Frievalt New Boot Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 14	I am new to this level of videography and to this board, boy this is some great stuff!! Really something to help me "raise the bar" of the shooting and editing that I am doing. Glen you do a fantastic job...very inspiring! I am using FCP and I was wondering how you added the dark vignette effect?

February 5th, 2005, 09:02 AM	#8
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Thank you. In Vegas 5 I added a "Generated Media- Gradient- Eliptical, Black to transparent".

February 5th, 2005, 11:48 AM	#9
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Glen, Are you using a stabilizer of some sort (other than OIS)? I notice you seem to slow everything down. What speeds are you chosing (50%, 25%, Other). I'm sure there's a variety in there but wondering what you're chosing. Are you softening the shots in any way? It can be hard to tell on compressed web video but some seem to be soft focus (deliberate, happy accident, filter hard or software, or?)?

February 5th, 2005, 04:49 PM	#10
Ben Lynn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 636	That really looked sharp Glen. Great shots and editing both! Ben

February 6th, 2005, 03:29 PM	#11
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	<<<-- Originally posted by Craig Seeman : Glen, Are you using a stabilizer of some sort (other than OIS)? No. Every shot in this piece was handheld. I have a glidecam 4000 pro that I vowed to use more often this upcoming season, however, I still feel I do a great deal of my shots handheld. It's actually my preference. I notice you seem to slow everything down. What speeds are you chosing (50%, 25%, Other). I'm sure there's a variety in there but wondering what you're chosing. I don't have a set motion percentage speed. I go by how the footage works and the tempo of the song. I always change the speed of the clips via the Ctrl+Drag method in Vegas, which is subsequently less scientific in regards to actual percentage #'s. That said I believe most of them are around 25% speed for this particular piece. Are you softening the shots in any way? It can be hard to tell on compressed web video but some seem to be soft focus (deliberate, happy accident, filter hard or software, or?)? Everything about the look of the image is deliberate. No soft focus...just a subtle glow filter on some clips which help smooth out skin tones and brighten whites. I'm big into increasing the contrast of my footage- as I find the stock footage tends to lack richness on the left side of the histogram (blacks). -->>>

February 9th, 2005, 12:40 PM	#12
Bob Harotunian Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 360	Glen, Super job and very moving. Just curious, do you revert to a documentary style for the remainder of the event? Also, I think there was one scene where you slowly rotated the camera upright from a dutch angle? Very good, actually amazing, handheld work without a stabilizer. Bob

February 9th, 2005, 02:06 PM	#13
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	<<<-- Originally posted by Bob Harotunian : Glen, Super job and very moving. Just curious, do you revert to a documentary style for the remainder of the event? Also, I think there was one scene where you slowly rotated the camera upright from a dutch angle? Very good, actually amazing, handheld work without a stabilizer. Bob -->>> Actually the majority of the program is documentary or photojournalistic style (however you want to describe it). I usually include 3 montage style segments such as this: Preceremony (bridal prep), Photosession, and Highlights..at the end. Thank you.