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Mark Errante · January 23rd, 2005, 09:27 PM

I recently purchased an XL2 for use in short films/docs, ect. but want to do weddings to pay off some of the cost. The XL2 is unable to use the onbard mic and the XLR's at the same time. What is a good, dependale settup that wont break the bank for getting good audio. I dont intend to do weddings for long so im not looking to drop a ton of money. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

John DeLuca · January 23rd, 2005, 11:53 PM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=38196

Have a look here

Chris Hurd · January 24th, 2005, 12:34 AM

Howdy from Texas,

<< The XL2 is unable to use the onbard mic and the XLR's at the same time. >>

Just to clarify, the above quote is misinformation. The XL2, like the XL1 and XL1S before it, is indeed able to use the onbard mic and the XLR's at the same time. See this thread for details.

Josh Hibbard · January 24th, 2005, 01:37 AM

I Bought the Audio Technica ATW-U101 for a Lavalier mic to put on the groom, And it is by far the purchase I am happiest with, for the cost; These Mics are everything I could have hoped for, and as long as the groom isn’t coughing or scratching himself this is normally the source of audio that ends up on the final product, Its incredible what this tiny mic can pick up.

http://www.audio-technica.com/guide/wireless/u100.html

I just finished another wedding and I just cant say enough how happy I was with this mic.

Mark Errante · January 24th, 2005, 09:35 AM

so do you use the wireless for both the vocals as well as the music?

Josh Hibbard · January 24th, 2005, 02:32 PM

It was my intention to use it mostly for the vocals, I have a conventional mic I run to the musicians if they are nearby; But often the acoustics are such that the lav mic picks up this extra bit of reverb that makes the sound much more rich, Often in musical bits you are hearing 100% of the corded mic, and 75% of the lav and it makes it sound that much better.

As far as using it for your primary music mic, I wouldnt reccomend that, Its good, but it needs a help to get the full spectrum. Also, grooms seem to see this as a good time to cough. or say to the bride "Sheesh how many songs did you pick" (yes, Ave Maria was being sung at the time) :D

Mark Errante · January 24th, 2005, 03:09 PM

Which mic do you use for the music? Do you feed it through a mixer or directly into the camera?

Josh Hibbard · January 25th, 2005, 05:43 PM

For the music I am currently looking to upgrade, Find a nice (natively) wireless mic to place right next to the music or the speakers. if anyone has any recommendations for that I would like to hear it.

I currently use a simple EV cardioid mic http://www.electrovoice.com/Electrovoice3/products.nsf/pages/ND267a

It’s not wireless, but I have an adaptor to turn the XLR output into a wireless signal. But if I am near the musicians I prefer to have it corded anyways

Its not optimal, it just happened to be equipment I could get for cheap a sound guy I knew; and it does it's job.

And I feed it directly into the camera.

A mixer is a something I am earmarking money for, but I have more pressing costs at the moment.

January 23rd, 2005, 09:27 PM	#1
Mark Errante Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 62	Newbie in need of audio gear I recently purchased an XL2 for use in short films/docs, ect. but want to do weddings to pay off some of the cost. The XL2 is unable to use the onbard mic and the XLR's at the same time. What is a good, dependale settup that wont break the bank for getting good audio. I dont intend to do weddings for long so im not looking to drop a ton of money. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

January 24th, 2005, 12:34 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Howdy from Texas, << The XL2 is unable to use the onbard mic and the XLR's at the same time. >> Just to clarify, the above quote is misinformation. The XL2, like the XL1 and XL1S before it, is indeed able to use the onbard mic and the XLR's at the same time. See this thread for details. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 23rd, 2005, 11:53 PM	#2
John DeLuca Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 496	http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=38196 Have a look here

January 24th, 2005, 01:37 AM	#4
Josh Hibbard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manitowoc Wisconsin Posts: 77	I Bought the Audio Technica ATW-U101 for a Lavalier mic to put on the groom, And it is by far the purchase I am happiest with, for the cost; These Mics are everything I could have hoped for, and as long as the groom isn’t coughing or scratching himself this is normally the source of audio that ends up on the final product, Its incredible what this tiny mic can pick up. http://www.audio-technica.com/guide/wireless/u100.html I just finished another wedding and I just cant say enough how happy I was with this mic.

January 24th, 2005, 09:35 AM	#5
Mark Errante Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 62	so do you use the wireless for both the vocals as well as the music?

January 24th, 2005, 02:32 PM	#6
Josh Hibbard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manitowoc Wisconsin Posts: 77	It was my intention to use it mostly for the vocals, I have a conventional mic I run to the musicians if they are nearby; But often the acoustics are such that the lav mic picks up this extra bit of reverb that makes the sound much more rich, Often in musical bits you are hearing 100% of the corded mic, and 75% of the lav and it makes it sound that much better. As far as using it for your primary music mic, I wouldnt reccomend that, Its good, but it needs a help to get the full spectrum. Also, grooms seem to see this as a good time to cough. or say to the bride "Sheesh how many songs did you pick" (yes, Ave Maria was being sung at the time) :D

January 24th, 2005, 03:09 PM	#7
Mark Errante Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 62	Which mic do you use for the music? Do you feed it through a mixer or directly into the camera?

January 25th, 2005, 05:43 PM	#8
Josh Hibbard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manitowoc Wisconsin Posts: 77	For the music I am currently looking to upgrade, Find a nice (natively) wireless mic to place right next to the music or the speakers. if anyone has any recommendations for that I would like to hear it. I currently use a simple EV cardioid mic http://www.electrovoice.com/Electrovoice3/products.nsf/pages/ND267a It’s not wireless, but I have an adaptor to turn the XLR output into a wireless signal. But if I am near the musicians I prefer to have it corded anyways Its not optimal, it just happened to be equipment I could get for cheap a sound guy I knew; and it does it's job. And I feed it directly into the camera. A mixer is a something I am earmarking money for, but I have more pressing costs at the moment.