? for those who know a little bit about photography.

Stephen J. Williams · September 9th, 2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Polster

Stephen,

I have to wonder how much a 25 watt light used outdoors from a distance would have helped out anyway?

Was this the B&G or the entire wedding party?

If it is the wedding party you would be standing back 10 or so feet?

Also, what type of color temp light were you using 3200 or 5600?

True, photography science would tell us your light would not impact the scene, but maybe the photographer did not know your light was only 25w?

Or maybe some of the shots were going to be higher ISO to match the lower evening ambient light along with a large aperature for shallow DOF.

This would bring out less power from the strobes as the camera is not needing as much light.

Or maybe the photog just did not want to take any chances or even mess with it.

Were these the only formal portaits or extra photos?

Just exploring the devils advocate to see if there was a real reason or just ignorance involved.

A quick test is to have your light on the subject and have the photog shoot a photo without the strobes firing and see if the subjects show up. (looking at the LCD) If for some reason they do, your light is having an impact.

Trust me the 25w light made a huge impact... even back 10ft it made a huge difference. It was during sunset. So i just needed enough light to expose the faces.
I wish I could post pics of with the light and without. Makes me frustrated just comparing the two.
In the defense of the photog. We were very limited on time (I didn't even have the chance to set up any creative shots, and really neither did she).
I'm sure there wasn't a huge issue but it was just easier and faster to tell me to turn it off.
Steve

Shaun Roemich · September 10th, 2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Polster

Or maybe some of the shots were going to be higher ISO to match the lower evening ambient light along with a large aperature for shallow DOF.

Higher ISO would actually INCREASE the depth of field for any given shutter speed - more sensitivity means smaller aperture means greater depth of field.

Tim Polster · September 10th, 2009, 11:13 PM

I hope not to be snarky but my point was a higher ISO setting would require less power out of the strobes therefore increasing the impact of ambient light.

Higher ISO does not increase or decrease the DOF, it mearly makes the camera more sensitive to light.

The aperature setting is the only way to change DOF.

I did write higher ISO with a large aperature.

Steve Pond · September 11th, 2009, 02:45 PM

I have more experience with the photography side, so I can't provide the perspective of a videograher, but there's SOME merit to the notion that a video light can impact the photography.

If the light isn't daylight balanced, it could cast a color on the pictures that will be unappealing. Most of the video lights I've researched are daylight balanced, and if that's the case with your light, it shouldn't effect the photographer in this regard.

If the flash is just being used for fill in a sunset scenario, perhaps the video light was powerful enough that it was effecting the "look" of the shot she was going for. Maybe you were casting light in an area where she wanted shadow, or you're throwing off her exposure because she's not using a powerful setting on the flash(es)... whatever.

Regardless of all the above, you're both there to get the job done, and if there's not enough time for both of you to do exactly what you want, then there needs to be a compromise. Maybe she doesn't get the EXACT shots she wanted and you don't get your ideal shots, but at least you both get the job done. Her job is no more important than yours, and vice versa. She has no right to tell you what you can and can't use to get your job done any more than you have a right to tell her she can't use a flash. Can't we all just get along? ;-)

Shaun Roemich · September 11th, 2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Polster

my point was a higher ISO setting would require less power out of the strobes therefore increasing the impact of ambient light.

Contextually MUCH more accurate, thanks for clarifying.

September 11th, 2009, 02:45 PM	#19
Steve Pond Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 44	I have more experience with the photography side, so I can't provide the perspective of a videograher, but there's SOME merit to the notion that a video light can impact the photography. If the light isn't daylight balanced, it could cast a color on the pictures that will be unappealing. Most of the video lights I've researched are daylight balanced, and if that's the case with your light, it shouldn't effect the photographer in this regard. If the flash is just being used for fill in a sunset scenario, perhaps the video light was powerful enough that it was effecting the "look" of the shot she was going for. Maybe you were casting light in an area where she wanted shadow, or you're throwing off her exposure because she's not using a powerful setting on the flash(es)... whatever. Regardless of all the above, you're both there to get the job done, and if there's not enough time for both of you to do exactly what you want, then there needs to be a compromise. Maybe she doesn't get the EXACT shots she wanted and you don't get your ideal shots, but at least you both get the job done. Her job is no more important than yours, and vice versa. She has no right to tell you what you can and can't use to get your job done any more than you have a right to tell her she can't use a flash. Can't we all just get along? ;-) Last edited by Steve Pond; September 12th, 2009 at 12:12 AM.

September 10th, 2009, 11:13 PM	#18
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	I hope not to be snarky but my point was a higher ISO setting would require less power out of the strobes therefore increasing the impact of ambient light. Higher ISO does not increase or decrease the DOF, it mearly makes the camera more sensitive to light. The aperature setting is the only way to change DOF. I did write higher ISO with a large aperature.