What do you do after you shoot suoer 8 at DVinfo.net

Robert Musiello · November 24th, 2008, 08:06 AM

I pretty much really high end as far as gear goes for weddings.. with numerous crews shooting... at two studios
I personally do both photography and video...
I am intrigued by the thought of shooting some super 8 as an add on to our packages...
what would be the process after the shoot...
send it out for conversion.. I would need it HD... can any one layout the process.. and maybe show an example of some finished work...

Thank
Bob
Photographic Artists Cinematic Video

George Kroonder · November 24th, 2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Musiello

I am intrigued by the thought of shooting some super 8 as an add on to our packages...

Your clients are intrigued by getting what (additional) deliverable?

George/

Robert Musiello · November 25th, 2008, 10:28 PM

i was thinking of adding the option.... to the HD package...

Richard Alvarez · November 25th, 2008, 10:42 PM

I was recently in Burbank, and dropped by Super 8 Sound - aka Pro8 PRO8MM | BURBANK CA | CAMERAS | FILM | LAB | SCANNING and was able to view their HD transfer of several of the Fujii stocks, as well as Kodak's Vision stocks.

Pretty. Dammned. Amazing.

Seriously, the fujii looked much better than I expected. The HD scans were extremely sharp, and honestly, the super 8 footage looked much better than the old 16 I used to shoot back in my early career as a newsphotog in TV. Yeah, the filmstocks have come a lONG way since then.

Basically, you can shoot either reversal or any of the new negative stocks. Return the film for processing, and they do a transfer to tape, with color correction of the negative. Various levels are offered from SD to HD - so check out the price list. Also 'bulk' and package deals.

But Pro8 is just one shop, there are others. So look around.

A thing to remember if you are shooting with an older camera, they are not all 'notched' for the new negative stocks. In the old days, the cameras only had to accomodate something like four different ASA's. Now there are more filmstocks available, but they are being loaded into the old cartridges. So the camera might not 'read' the notch on the cartridge and set the exposure correctly. Talk to the lab about your camera, and what stock you are using, and you might have to compensate by overexposing or underexposing a stop or two.

yeah, you have to understand exposure, and even how to read a meter... and whether or not your camera has a 'tungsten/daylight' filter built in.

In short, you'll have to have a basic understanding of exposing filmstock. If you're coming from a still background, no big deal really.

So buy a roll or two - shoot it, get it transfered to tape and edit as usual.

Super 8 properly exposed in a good camera, is really beautiful. But if you're expecting scratches, blow-outs, high grain, dust particles, gate weave, judder and such - just add that in post with 'effects' on your video. A good film camera, (Super 8, 16 or 35) properly maintained won't show that.

Have fun and enjoy the latitude of film.

Stephen J. Williams · November 26th, 2008, 09:01 PM

after watching a John moon's demo a few weeks ago I "up'd" my interest in super 8 as well. The initial start up seems relatively cheap. Super 8 cams run anywhere from 50$-300 "average prices" on ebay. I Purchased a Nikon R8. It hasn't been delivered yet but I have been very interested in shooting on film.
I've called a few places to see what the best bang for my buck would be for Stock, process, and telecine "transfer". Companies on the west coast such as Pro8mm and spectra put out an amazing product, but seem a little pricey. Pac-Lab in NYC said they would do it all for about 50$ and Dwaynes photo for 40$. I'll most likely start out with one of these two, but i dont think there selection of stock is limited.
I watched a video on youtube filmed with a canon 814 on vision film. It looked 100% amazing and much better then video on my DVX100B.
Also, if someone knows a place cheaper then PacLab or Dwaynes photo please let me know.

November 24th, 2008, 08:06 AM	#1
Robert Musiello Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 143	What do you do after you shoot suoer 8 I pretty much really high end as far as gear goes for weddings.. with numerous crews shooting... at two studios I personally do both photography and video... I am intrigued by the thought of shooting some super 8 as an add on to our packages... what would be the process after the shoot... send it out for conversion.. I would need it HD... can any one layout the process.. and maybe show an example of some finished work... Thank Bob Photographic Artists Cinematic Video

November 25th, 2008, 10:28 PM	#3
Robert Musiello Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 143	i was thinking of adding the option.... to the HD package...

November 25th, 2008, 10:42 PM	#4
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	I was recently in Burbank, and dropped by Super 8 Sound - aka Pro8 PRO8MM \| BURBANK CA \| CAMERAS \| FILM \| LAB \| SCANNING and was able to view their HD transfer of several of the Fujii stocks, as well as Kodak's Vision stocks. Pretty. Dammned. Amazing. Seriously, the fujii looked much better than I expected. The HD scans were extremely sharp, and honestly, the super 8 footage looked much better than the old 16 I used to shoot back in my early career as a newsphotog in TV. Yeah, the filmstocks have come a lONG way since then. Basically, you can shoot either reversal or any of the new negative stocks. Return the film for processing, and they do a transfer to tape, with color correction of the negative. Various levels are offered from SD to HD - so check out the price list. Also 'bulk' and package deals. But Pro8 is just one shop, there are others. So look around. A thing to remember if you are shooting with an older camera, they are not all 'notched' for the new negative stocks. In the old days, the cameras only had to accomodate something like four different ASA's. Now there are more filmstocks available, but they are being loaded into the old cartridges. So the camera might not 'read' the notch on the cartridge and set the exposure correctly. Talk to the lab about your camera, and what stock you are using, and you might have to compensate by overexposing or underexposing a stop or two. yeah, you have to understand exposure, and even how to read a meter... and whether or not your camera has a 'tungsten/daylight' filter built in. In short, you'll have to have a basic understanding of exposing filmstock. If you're coming from a still background, no big deal really. So buy a roll or two - shoot it, get it transfered to tape and edit as usual. Super 8 properly exposed in a good camera, is really beautiful. But if you're expecting scratches, blow-outs, high grain, dust particles, gate weave, judder and such - just add that in post with 'effects' on your video. A good film camera, (Super 8, 16 or 35) properly maintained won't show that. Have fun and enjoy the latitude of film.

November 26th, 2008, 09:01 PM	#5
Stephen J. Williams Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 768	after watching a John moon's demo a few weeks ago I "up'd" my interest in super 8 as well. The initial start up seems relatively cheap. Super 8 cams run anywhere from 50$-300 "average prices" on ebay. I Purchased a Nikon R8. It hasn't been delivered yet but I have been very interested in shooting on film. I've called a few places to see what the best bang for my buck would be for Stock, process, and telecine "transfer". Companies on the west coast such as Pro8mm and spectra put out an amazing product, but seem a little pricey. Pac-Lab in NYC said they would do it all for about 50$ and Dwaynes photo for 40$. I'll most likely start out with one of these two, but i dont think there selection of stock is limited. I watched a video on youtube filmed with a canon 814 on vision film. It looked 100% amazing and much better then video on my DVX100B. Also, if someone knows a place cheaper then PacLab or Dwaynes photo please let me know.