Wedding clip for review at DVinfo.net

John De Rienzo · November 21st, 2008, 07:28 AM

A montage of clips from a recent wedding, would appreciate feedback.

Thank you.

http://www.derienzo-videoproductions.co.uk/jaco.wmv

Michael Ojjeh · November 21st, 2008, 08:06 AM

John, you did a very nice job it was very well put together with the music I loved watching it, one thing I was not crazy about is the fast zoom in and out with transition between clips that did not go well with the music, but beautiful work .
What camera did you use ? and that looked like 24p setting .

Ethan Cooper · November 21st, 2008, 10:20 AM

When you have good solid shots, you don't really need the effects. Often times I felt the effect spoiled what was otherwise a nice shot.

My old rule of thumb with effects comes to mind on this one, just because you can doesn't mean you should. Color grading your footage is one thing, adding superfluous light rays and bloom effects is another. More often than not, these type of effects should be used to enhance or distract from otherwise bland or just bad shots. The shots you used them on didn't need it.

Your style and quality of shooting lends itself to a quieter, more refined elegance which doesn't need to be gimmicky to draw the eye or attract attention. What you just did in essence is to slap a 5 foot spoiler wing on the back of a Lexus. Trust your shooting a little more, it's good.

Oren Arieli · November 21st, 2008, 11:25 AM

I have to go with Ethan on this one. The effects too often serve to draw attention away from the shot. You've got some beautiful footage, but I would have shortened the song so as to leave in just the 'best of the best'.

Ethan Cooper · November 21st, 2008, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oren Arieli

I have to go with Ethan on this one.

Can you teach my wife that phrase?

And don't think we're picking on you. Your end product could be so much better than it is just by editing things down a little further and de-cheesing it a bit. I'm almost always harder on guys who are close to putting it together and being pretty darn good but who need just a little nudge in the right direction. You're close. Keep tweaking your editing style just a little cause your shooting isn't very far off. Some people have the eye.

What adapter are you using?

Rodney Compton · November 21st, 2008, 11:47 AM

Hi fellow Londoner,

A wedding is a fairytale for most brides, and film can be just the kind of poetry to describe it, so the style and romantic shot selection is perfect, (and much better than I do - i am primarily a stills photographer who dabbles in wedding film). I think the fluid quality would be enhanced by a stedicam of some modest proportion and cost and yes, timed with the music - but we both know, we only get one take, so it has to workfirst time. I would like to see more - a showreel perhaps.

The Home of Wedding Photography

John De Rienzo · November 21st, 2008, 12:05 PM

Hi,

Thx for all the positive and constructive feedback. Yes, I do have these ray effects in my head! must stop using them! he keeps saying while adding another........

Thank you.

Stephen J. Williams · November 21st, 2008, 01:51 PM

I liked it... how did you pull off that effect?

Arif Syed · November 21st, 2008, 10:52 PM

Camera? If XH-A1, mind telling me what preset and or accessories you have to help give you a better picture?

John De Rienzo · November 23rd, 2008, 04:46 PM

Hi Arif,

No presets, Sony FX1, and magic bullet.

Cheers.

November 21st, 2008, 07:28 AM	#1
John De Rienzo Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London Posts: 313	Wedding clip for review A montage of clips from a recent wedding, would appreciate feedback. Thank you. http://www.derienzo-videoproductions.co.uk/jaco.wmv

November 21st, 2008, 08:06 AM	#2
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	John, you did a very nice job it was very well put together with the music I loved watching it, one thing I was not crazy about is the fast zoom in and out with transition between clips that did not go well with the music, but beautiful work . What camera did you use ? and that looked like 24p setting . __________________ Dragonfly Production http://www.dragonflyproduction.net/ http://www.vimeo.com/user432181

November 21st, 2008, 10:20 AM	#3
Ethan Cooper Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 1,400 Images: 5	When you have good solid shots, you don't really need the effects. Often times I felt the effect spoiled what was otherwise a nice shot. My old rule of thumb with effects comes to mind on this one, just because you can doesn't mean you should. Color grading your footage is one thing, adding superfluous light rays and bloom effects is another. More often than not, these type of effects should be used to enhance or distract from otherwise bland or just bad shots. The shots you used them on didn't need it. Your style and quality of shooting lends itself to a quieter, more refined elegance which doesn't need to be gimmicky to draw the eye or attract attention. What you just did in essence is to slap a 5 foot spoiler wing on the back of a Lexus. Trust your shooting a little more, it's good. __________________ ∅ -Ethan Cooper

November 21st, 2008, 11:47 AM	#6
Rodney Compton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 90	poetry in motion Hi fellow Londoner, A wedding is a fairytale for most brides, and film can be just the kind of poetry to describe it, so the style and romantic shot selection is perfect, (and much better than I do - i am primarily a stills photographer who dabbles in wedding film). I think the fluid quality would be enhanced by a stedicam of some modest proportion and cost and yes, timed with the music - but we both know, we only get one take, so it has to workfirst time. I would like to see more - a showreel perhaps. The Home of Wedding Photography

November 21st, 2008, 11:25 AM	#4
Oren Arieli Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 919	I have to go with Ethan on this one. The effects too often serve to draw attention away from the shot. You've got some beautiful footage, but I would have shortened the song so as to leave in just the 'best of the best'.

November 21st, 2008, 12:05 PM	#7
John De Rienzo Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London Posts: 313	Hi, Thx for all the positive and constructive feedback. Yes, I do have these ray effects in my head! must stop using them! he keeps saying while adding another........ Thank you.

November 21st, 2008, 01:51 PM	#8
Stephen J. Williams Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 768	I liked it... how did you pull off that effect?

November 21st, 2008, 10:52 PM	#9
Arif Syed Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Elmont, New York Posts: 143	Camera? If XH-A1, mind telling me what preset and or accessories you have to help give you a better picture?

November 23rd, 2008, 04:46 PM	#10
John De Rienzo Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London Posts: 313	Hi Arif, No presets, Sony FX1, and magic bullet. Cheers.