The Curse of the Cross Dissolve!

Randy Panado · November 13th, 2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alastair Brown

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...and a low light one from some german guy.

Alastair

that wouldn't happen to be Wolfgang's preset would it? If so, which one? Mind emailing it to me please?

Thanks :)

Alastair Brown · November 14th, 2008, 07:08 AM

It is Wolfgangs one. I think the 6db version

Michael Liebergot · November 14th, 2008, 08:54 AM

We have taken the journalistic approach to our videos. I am a storyteller, and as such rely heavily on natural audio first and foremost to tell my story. Then edit in the clips accordingly to enhance it.

Most of the edit is done by using straight cuts, and yes even for slow paced romantic songs.

While cuts are harder to work with for slow romantic pieces, they do work if you have the right shots and composition, mixed with your audio. This means proper pacing of your cuts to the downbeat, and mixing of live audio to go along with a score.

While we still use a cross dissolves, and maybe B&W a few tomes in the video, it is only used for impact of some sort. Slow motion especially is used sparingly in order to produce impact in the video. Now while some clips mihgt be slowed down, they might not be dramatically, but rather 75-80% only, in order to work with the downbeat or music score.

It's funny, in that my wife's boss sent her a wedding video that she thought was fantastic and might give me some creative inspiration for my videos, which she had never seen.

All it was was a music video with a lot of slow motion and pretty shots in it.
In essence a long music video, with little or no live audio. Which I actually felt was boring and unemotional.

I then gave my wife a DVD to show her boss, and she was in tears, saying how beautiful and touching the video was.
She got to know the couple well enough by watching the video that she actually cried. This was due to the use of audio creatively first and then the clips to support it.

Slow motion, dissolves and effects can work in this manner when mixed properly with audio. But, we all should be aware that these are just effects, and should be used to enhance the story, not ell the story.

Shaun Conner · November 14th, 2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alastair Brown

It is Wolfgangs one. I think the 6db version

I would like that one as well.

Richard Wakefield · November 14th, 2008, 10:28 AM

be warned though that those particular presets, although good in some way, produce a horrible ghosting effect when there is movement!

Shaun Conner · November 14th, 2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Wakefield

be warned though that those particular presets, although good in some way, produce a horrible ghosting effect when there is movement!

Movement of the camera or just movement period?

Daniel Fessak · November 15th, 2008, 06:27 PM

Footage looks great! What kind of camera?

Arif Syed · November 23rd, 2008, 12:23 AM

Anything added to the lens, or did you shoot this on the stock lens? Basically, what I am asking is, all you did to the camera was add presets and personalized settings (gain level, shutter, etc..) and left the rest for post?

Alastair Brown · November 23rd, 2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Fessak

Footage looks great! What kind of camera?

Canon XH-A1's

Alastair Brown · November 23rd, 2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Arif Syed

Anything added to the lens, or did you shoot this on the stock lens? Basically, what I am asking is, all you did to the camera was add presets and personalized settings (gain level, shutter, etc..) and left the rest for post?

Spot On! Grading all done using New Blue Effects and Magic Bullet Looks.

November 14th, 2008, 08:54 AM	#33
Michael Liebergot Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,505	We have taken the journalistic approach to our videos. I am a storyteller, and as such rely heavily on natural audio first and foremost to tell my story. Then edit in the clips accordingly to enhance it. Most of the edit is done by using straight cuts, and yes even for slow paced romantic songs. While cuts are harder to work with for slow romantic pieces, they do work if you have the right shots and composition, mixed with your audio. This means proper pacing of your cuts to the downbeat, and mixing of live audio to go along with a score. While we still use a cross dissolves, and maybe B&W a few tomes in the video, it is only used for impact of some sort. Slow motion especially is used sparingly in order to produce impact in the video. Now while some clips mihgt be slowed down, they might not be dramatically, but rather 75-80% only, in order to work with the downbeat or music score. It's funny, in that my wife's boss sent her a wedding video that she thought was fantastic and might give me some creative inspiration for my videos, which she had never seen. All it was was a music video with a lot of slow motion and pretty shots in it. In essence a long music video, with little or no live audio. Which I actually felt was boring and unemotional. I then gave my wife a DVD to show her boss, and she was in tears, saying how beautiful and touching the video was. She got to know the couple well enough by watching the video that she actually cried. This was due to the use of audio creatively first and then the clips to support it. Slow motion, dissolves and effects can work in this manner when mixed properly with audio. But, we all should be aware that these are just effects, and should be used to enhance the story, not ell the story. __________________ Michael www.lvpvideo.com

November 14th, 2008, 07:08 AM	#32
Alastair Brown Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Glasgow/Scotland Posts: 626	It is Wolfgangs one. I think the 6db version

November 14th, 2008, 10:28 AM	#35
Richard Wakefield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 680	be warned though that those particular presets, although good in some way, produce a horrible ghosting effect when there is movement!

November 15th, 2008, 06:27 PM	#37
Daniel Fessak Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 123	Footage looks great! What kind of camera?

November 23rd, 2008, 12:23 AM	#38
Arif Syed Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Elmont, New York Posts: 143	Anything added to the lens, or did you shoot this on the stock lens? Basically, what I am asking is, all you did to the camera was add presets and personalized settings (gain level, shutter, etc..) and left the rest for post?