One XH-A1 and an HV 20 for weddings at DVinfo.net

Arif Syed · August 23rd, 2008, 08:31 PM

The XH-A1 is a great camera but can I use the HV 20 in a way where it can be effective since I already own one. The aesthetics of the HV 20 are not the most professional, so what is the best option?

Bruce Patterson · August 23rd, 2008, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arif Syed

The XH-A1 is a great camera but can I use the HV 20 in a way where it can be effective since I already own one. The aesthetics of the HV 20 are not the most professional, so what is the best option?

Incorporate a Letus Extreme on the HV30 and all it'll be longer than your A1!

Arif Syed · August 23rd, 2008, 11:25 PM

Do you think investing in a Letus for the HV20 for specific shots be more practical than getting a second xh-a1?

Peter Szilveszter · August 24th, 2008, 01:34 AM

If you are a doco style shooter then maybe not but if you like the filmic style then its a great option to have.

I am on xh-a1 with hv20/adapter (RNG35). It gives you pleny of options for shot styles. My hv20 and the adapter with 3 lenses is about half price of an A1 so you could if you want buy 2 hv30s, one with adapter and one for wide unmanned shots.

Oleg Kalyan · August 24th, 2008, 02:00 AM

I use both A1 HV20 now 30, and H1, depending on applications, I'd say it' s a great little camera, can't go wrong using it.

Kees van Duijvenbode · August 25th, 2008, 04:50 AM

I use my A1 on a tripod for the A-footage and use a HV30 on a tripod as second cam for wide shots, inserts etc. during the cermony. But at the party and during dancing I also use the HV30 on a monopod on which I mounted a weight to the bottom. That way I can use it for steady shots or "crane-like-shots" and thus shoot "creative footage".

Oren Arieli · August 25th, 2008, 09:44 AM

Get a suction type mount or a gooseneck and clamp and you can stick the HV20 just about anywhere. Being so small, it make a great unobtrusive 2nd camera for unique perspectives (or just a safe wide shot). I take it on every shoot.

Serge Satkar · August 25th, 2008, 01:35 PM

IMO HV-20/30 is a unique choice for that price! Can serve both for craning, low/high angle shots, sometimes as a second cam unmanned on tripod.
I found one more application for this baby-camera :) You can give it to someone of guests (when it not usefull), and have pretty "live" footage that can help on editing, a kind of subjective camera..
Or even take guest-by-guest mini interviews in tight limo. People like such entertainment and I have vivid, natural emotions on shots :)

John Moon · August 25th, 2008, 02:23 PM

We use the HV30 as our 3rd static wide shot....it is an easy camera to hide and the footage is very good. Has low light limitations. It works great on a Glidecam 2000 to.

Taky Cheung · August 25th, 2008, 09:53 PM

I use XH-A1 as the main cam and HV30 as second cam. I gear up the HV30 with the Canon WD-H43 and the XH-A1's lens hood. Then mounted a shortgun mic and two CAnon VL-10 lights on top. Also using BP-2L24H the largest battery. Not bad looking.
Attached some pics.

Dave Blackhurst · August 26th, 2008, 12:24 AM

As a Sony user, I think this also goes for the small sony HD cams - decked out properly, they not only look pretty professional, but they can do a pretty good job, many times where a big cam just isn't as effective. You just need to know what the camera can and can't do, but these little pocket rockets can do quite a lot!

Taky, nice rig, take me to your leader <wink>! Do you get those "Star Trek" coments too...? I get that when my minicams are all decked out with brackets, lights and sound!

While it's a bit of a strange feeling using the small camera and it doesn't feel quite as "in control", with the economy and tight budgets I'm considering using the small cams in multicam setups (already use multicam...) and leaving the big cam parked most of the time...

Taky Cheung · August 26th, 2008, 08:01 AM

When both lights are on, it looks like Johnny-five the robot :)

As a one-man band, it's impossible to carry two XH-A1. So I went with HV30 for the size and cost. I actually have a second HV30 mounted on Merlin too.

Arif Syed · August 26th, 2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taky Cheung

When both lights are on, it looks like Johnny-five the robot :)

As a one-man band, it's impossible to carry two XH-A1. So I went with HV30 for the size and cost. I actually have a second HV30 mounted on Merlin too.

How are those two canon lights holding up in weddings Taky? Are they strong enough to fill the scene and not just spotlighting?

Taky Cheung · August 26th, 2008, 05:27 PM

it's 20 Watt in total. It won't lit up the entire place but it certainly give me good result in shooting in ballrooms. I also have another VL-10 mounted on the XH-A1 too.

The best thing I like is they are all using the same BP-900 batteries. For the BP-970G, I can get about 3 to 3.5 hours continue usage per charge.

Kiflom Bahta · August 28th, 2008, 12:22 AM

Nice, nice Taky, how do you like SVM. i just bought one today to use it with my A1. Do you use the 10db pad or the in camera 20db. Thx

August 23rd, 2008, 08:31 PM	#1
Arif Syed Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Elmont, New York Posts: 143	One XH-A1 and an HV 20 for weddings The XH-A1 is a great camera but can I use the HV 20 in a way where it can be effective since I already own one. The aesthetics of the HV 20 are not the most professional, so what is the best option?

August 24th, 2008, 01:34 AM	#4
Peter Szilveszter Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Yeppoon, Queensland Posts: 332	If you are a doco style shooter then maybe not but if you like the filmic style then its a great option to have. I am on xh-a1 with hv20/adapter (RNG35). It gives you pleny of options for shot styles. My hv20 and the adapter with 3 lenses is about half price of an A1 so you could if you want buy 2 hv30s, one with adapter and one for wide unmanned shots. __________________ www.livinglens.com.au \| www.livinglens.com.au/blog

August 25th, 2008, 04:50 AM	#6
Kees van Duijvenbode Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 246	I use my A1 on a tripod for the A-footage and use a HV30 on a tripod as second cam for wide shots, inserts etc. during the cermony. But at the party and during dancing I also use the HV30 on a monopod on which I mounted a weight to the bottom. That way I can use it for steady shots or "crane-like-shots" and thus shoot "creative footage". __________________ www.cvd-video.nl

August 25th, 2008, 02:23 PM	#9
John Moon Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 446	We use the HV30 as our 3rd static wide shot....it is an easy camera to hide and the footage is very good. Has low light limitations. It works great on a Glidecam 2000 to. __________________ John J. Moon www.northernlightfilmworks.com - Event DV Top 25 Recipient

August 25th, 2008, 09:53 PM	#10
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	I use XH-A1 as the main cam and HV30 as second cam. I gear up the HV30 with the Canon WD-H43 and the XH-A1's lens hood. Then mounted a shortgun mic and two CAnon VL-10 lights on top. Also using BP-2L24H the largest battery. Not bad looking. Attached some pics. Attached Thumbnails __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 23rd, 2008, 11:25 PM	#3
Arif Syed Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Elmont, New York Posts: 143	Do you think investing in a Letus for the HV20 for specific shots be more practical than getting a second xh-a1?

August 24th, 2008, 02:00 AM	#5
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	I use both A1 HV20 now 30, and H1, depending on applications, I'd say it' s a great little camera, can't go wrong using it.

August 25th, 2008, 09:44 AM	#7
Oren Arieli Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 919	Get a suction type mount or a gooseneck and clamp and you can stick the HV20 just about anywhere. Being so small, it make a great unobtrusive 2nd camera for unique perspectives (or just a safe wide shot). I take it on every shoot.

August 25th, 2008, 01:35 PM	#8
Serge Satkar Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Moscow Posts: 107	IMO HV-20/30 is a unique choice for that price! Can serve both for craning, low/high angle shots, sometimes as a second cam unmanned on tripod. I found one more application for this baby-camera :) You can give it to someone of guests (when it not usefull), and have pretty "live" footage that can help on editing, a kind of subjective camera.. Or even take guest-by-guest mini interviews in tight limo. People like such entertainment and I have vivid, natural emotions on shots :)

August 26th, 2008, 12:24 AM	#11
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	As a Sony user, I think this also goes for the small sony HD cams - decked out properly, they not only look pretty professional, but they can do a pretty good job, many times where a big cam just isn't as effective. You just need to know what the camera can and can't do, but these little pocket rockets can do quite a lot! Taky, nice rig, take me to your leader <wink>! Do you get those "Star Trek" coments too...? I get that when my minicams are all decked out with brackets, lights and sound! While it's a bit of a strange feeling using the small camera and it doesn't feel quite as "in control", with the economy and tight budgets I'm considering using the small cams in multicam setups (already use multicam...) and leaving the big cam parked most of the time...

August 26th, 2008, 08:01 AM	#12
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	When both lights are on, it looks like Johnny-five the robot :) As a one-man band, it's impossible to carry two XH-A1. So I went with HV30 for the size and cost. I actually have a second HV30 mounted on Merlin too. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 26th, 2008, 05:27 PM	#14
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	it's 20 Watt in total. It won't lit up the entire place but it certainly give me good result in shooting in ballrooms. I also have another VL-10 mounted on the XH-A1 too. The best thing I like is they are all using the same BP-900 batteries. For the BP-970G, I can get about 3 to 3.5 hours continue usage per charge. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 28th, 2008, 12:22 AM	#15
Kiflom Bahta Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 203	Nice, nice Taky, how do you like SVM. i just bought one today to use it with my A1. Do you use the 10db pad or the in camera 20db. Thx