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Nate Spencer · July 20th, 2008, 06:12 PM

Hi I'm Nate long time lurker new poster. I did a wedding for a friend of my wife's a few weeks ago. Everything went pretty well. Shot w/ HV-20, and two Panasonic SD cams. I know its not the big boy toys. It was free in exchange for demo material. Nonetheless, the wedding was ran by two church provided coordinators. One I had in High School 12+ years ago as a business teacher. A little odd.

The wedding shoot consisted of two manned cams and one unmanned in the loft in upper (2nd floor) rear. Well after the ceremony and recession I ran up to shutdown the cam. Well somebody did that for me. I went down and asked the ushers and the wedding coord. I knew no one saw anything.

Well when I went to capture later I found I had an uncredited videographer was running my loft cam. Ironically someone intentionally put their hands when my wife came down the aisle to cover her (Matron of Honor). I found out later that the 2nd coordinator my wife mocked after the third time within a few minutes of time came back and more less demanded the bride end her restroom break before the ceremony. Which I wasn't happy about. After rolling the aisle vid. I am moderately certain that it was the 2nd coordinator judging by the sleeve cut. Can't totally nail it at 400% on SD vid.

Not that I plan on doing anything. The is the 7th wedding video I have done in a decade. Never had anything like that before. Anyone else?

Marshall Levy · July 20th, 2008, 07:18 PM

Nope, but if someone touched any of my equipment it wouldn't go over to well. In terms of your situation, from a legal standpoint, no money, no contract, the end. I suppose you just have to do the best you can.

Nate Spencer · July 20th, 2008, 07:24 PM

Yeah the Bride was not happy about it. The church pretty much ran over her wishes all day the groom was shocked as well. Although it gave me grief in post. Not much. I just have never heard of such a thing.

David Schuurman · July 20th, 2008, 08:49 PM

wow, that pretty much beats any bad photog story I've heard.

William Smyth · July 21st, 2008, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate Spencer

Hi I'm Nate long time lurker new poster. I did a wedding for a friend of my wife's a few weeks ago. Everything went pretty well. Shot w/ HV-20, and two Panasonic SD cams. I know its not the big boy toys. It was free in exchange for demo material. Nonetheless, the wedding was ran by two church provided coordinators. One I had in High School 12+ years ago as a business teacher. A little odd.

The wedding shoot consisted of two manned cams and one unmanned in the loft in upper (2nd floor) rear. Well after the ceremony and recession I ran up to shutdown the cam. Well somebody did that for me. I went down and asked the ushers and the wedding coord. I knew no one saw anything.

Well when I went to capture later I found I had an uncredited videographer was running my loft cam. Ironically someone intentionally put their hands when my wife came down the aisle to cover her (Matron of Honor). I found out later that the 2nd coordinator my wife mocked after the third time within a few minutes of time came back and more less demanded the bride end her restroom break before the ceremony. Which I wasn't happy about. After rolling the aisle vid. I am moderately certain that it was the 2nd coordinator judging by the sleeve cut. Can't totally nail it at 400% on SD vid.

Not that I plan on doing anything. The is the 7th wedding video I have done in a decade. Never had anything like that before. Anyone else?

I don't want to be rude, but I couldn't understand that post at all.

Nate Spencer · July 21st, 2008, 06:20 AM

>I don't want to be rude, but I couldn't understand that post at all.

Basically someone from the church. Probably one of the (church provided) coordinators (viewed via the cam that shot the aisle) ran my fixed cam intentionally as in operated my cam w/o my knowledge or permission. Also tried to blot out my wife who was the bridesmaid.

My post is to see if anyone else has had anything crazy like that happen. With a church provided wedding coordinator or some sort of church staff member just run your stationary cam.

Nathan Nazeck · July 21st, 2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate Spencer

Yeah the Bride was not happy about it. The church pretty much ran over her wishes all day the groom was shocked as well. Although it gave me grief in post. Not much. I just have never heard of such a thing.

I once had an organ player drag my static balcony cam downstairs with tripod and all and toss it in a pile on top of the photogs' gear without ever mentioning it to me...
I flipped out.

Dawn Brennan · July 21st, 2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan Nazeck

I once had an organ player drag my static balcony cam downstairs with tripod and all and toss it in a pile on top of the photogs' gear without ever mentioning it to me...
I flipped out.

FLIPPED OUT! That's hopefully an understatement! I think there would be bloodshed if that were to ever happen to me.

Worst I had was a nasty photographer that deliberately stood in front of a static cam... I mean looked directly into the camera, smiled and placed themselves to block the entire shot. I did sense a problem before the ceremony, so I had an extra cam set, just in case!

Nate Haustein · July 21st, 2008, 08:47 AM

wow. people have no decency at all.

worst I've had so far (thankfully) was a priest that at the rehearsal the night before. When I went up to say hello and introduce myself to him, the first thing he said was "Video people? Oh, I hate video people."

Assuring him I would be discreet, I walked away, muttering in irony about how unwelcoming a priest of all people could possibly be.

Kelsey Emuss · July 21st, 2008, 10:45 AM

Great! So this is what I have to look forward to eh?

The whole thing just sounds bizzare!

Jason Robinson · July 21st, 2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelsey Emuss

Great! So this is what I have to look forward to eh?

The whole thing just sounds bizzare!

This? Heheheh. These stores are just the beginning. I'm sure Don Bloom who has been at this a few decades, could tell some amazing stories.

Garrett Low · July 21st, 2008, 12:32 PM

Great, now I'll be even more paranoid about leaving my equipment unattended. Maybe I should get a bunch of wireless webcams and have them pointed at my equipment, feed it into my laptop. That's kind of a weird image, a webcam filming an unmanned video camera.

Nate Spencer · July 22nd, 2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelsey Emuss

Great! So this is what I have to look forward to eh?

The whole thing just sounds bizzare!

That is how it struck me. The photogs which were really good they were shocked too when we chatted during dinner. I know I will keep a much closer watch on things. I almost always have my primary cam on hand with tapes and batts. I also keep my case and macbook with the primary tripod.

Rick Steele · July 22nd, 2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate Spencer

I know I will keep a much closer watch on things. I almost always have my primary cam on hand with tapes and batts. I also keep my case and macbook with the primary tripod.

You know... I'd almost consider this a one time deal and wouldn't change my work style just for the off chance it might happen again.

It was a fluke. There can't be that many idiots out there that would do this exact same thing.

Nate Spencer · July 22nd, 2008, 10:10 AM

Other than keeping a closer eye on things. I already do most of those things. I have had more issues with younger kids and "cool electronic" gadgets.

More than likely you are right a one time deal. That I would probably charge more for that venue if I ever shot it again. Their are billion churches here in the midwest odds are low I would do that church anytime in the near future. The possible lead I got from the other maid of honor. But down at the Methodist church down the road. This business seems to operate from leads.

July 20th, 2008, 06:12 PM	#1
Nate Spencer New Boot Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Marion, IN Posts: 16	Odd Situation Hi I'm Nate long time lurker new poster. I did a wedding for a friend of my wife's a few weeks ago. Everything went pretty well. Shot w/ HV-20, and two Panasonic SD cams. I know its not the big boy toys. It was free in exchange for demo material. Nonetheless, the wedding was ran by two church provided coordinators. One I had in High School 12+ years ago as a business teacher. A little odd. The wedding shoot consisted of two manned cams and one unmanned in the loft in upper (2nd floor) rear. Well after the ceremony and recession I ran up to shutdown the cam. Well somebody did that for me. I went down and asked the ushers and the wedding coord. I knew no one saw anything. Well when I went to capture later I found I had an uncredited videographer was running my loft cam. Ironically someone intentionally put their hands when my wife came down the aisle to cover her (Matron of Honor). I found out later that the 2nd coordinator my wife mocked after the third time within a few minutes of time came back and more less demanded the bride end her restroom break before the ceremony. Which I wasn't happy about. After rolling the aisle vid. I am moderately certain that it was the 2nd coordinator judging by the sleeve cut. Can't totally nail it at 400% on SD vid. Not that I plan on doing anything. The is the 7th wedding video I have done in a decade. Never had anything like that before. Anyone else?

July 20th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#3
Nate Spencer New Boot Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Marion, IN Posts: 16	my thoughts too Yeah the Bride was not happy about it. The church pretty much ran over her wishes all day the groom was shocked as well. Although it gave me grief in post. Not much. I just have never heard of such a thing.

July 21st, 2008, 06:20 AM	#6
Nate Spencer New Boot Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Marion, IN Posts: 16	Sorry yeah a bit unclear. >I don't want to be rude, but I couldn't understand that post at all. Basically someone from the church. Probably one of the (church provided) coordinators (viewed via the cam that shot the aisle) ran my fixed cam intentionally as in operated my cam w/o my knowledge or permission. Also tried to blot out my wife who was the bridesmaid. My post is to see if anyone else has had anything crazy like that happen. With a church provided wedding coordinator or some sort of church staff member just run your stationary cam.

July 21st, 2008, 08:47 AM	#9
Nate Haustein Trustee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,313	wow. people have no decency at all. worst I've had so far (thankfully) was a priest that at the rehearsal the night before. When I went up to say hello and introduce myself to him, the first thing he said was "Video people? Oh, I hate video people." Assuring him I would be discreet, I walked away, muttering in irony about how unwelcoming a priest of all people could possibly be. __________________ Nate Haustein PXW-FX9 / FCPX www.flightcreativemedia.com

July 22nd, 2008, 10:10 AM	#15
Nate Spencer New Boot Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Marion, IN Posts: 16	true Other than keeping a closer eye on things. I already do most of those things. I have had more issues with younger kids and "cool electronic" gadgets. More than likely you are right a one time deal. That I would probably charge more for that venue if I ever shot it again. Their are billion churches here in the midwest odds are low I would do that church anytime in the near future. The possible lead I got from the other maid of honor. But down at the Methodist church down the road. This business seems to operate from leads. Last edited by Nate Spencer; July 22nd, 2008 at 10:12 AM. Reason: I hit send too soon.

July 20th, 2008, 07:18 PM	#2
Marshall Levy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 304	Nope, but if someone touched any of my equipment it wouldn't go over to well. In terms of your situation, from a legal standpoint, no money, no contract, the end. I suppose you just have to do the best you can.

July 20th, 2008, 08:49 PM	#4
David Schuurman Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hamilton, ON Canada Posts: 369	wow, that pretty much beats any bad photog story I've heard.

July 21st, 2008, 10:45 AM	#10
Kelsey Emuss Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 259	Great! So this is what I have to look forward to eh? The whole thing just sounds bizzare!

July 21st, 2008, 12:32 PM	#12
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	Great, now I'll be even more paranoid about leaving my equipment unattended. Maybe I should get a bunch of wireless webcams and have them pointed at my equipment, feed it into my laptop. That's kind of a weird image, a webcam filming an unmanned video camera.