Using hand held mic for best wishes at DVinfo.net

Matt Duke · February 26th, 2008, 06:31 AM

Hi guys,

I was just wondering, I have a SHURE SM58 mic that I was planning on using with my wireless receiver from my Sony URX-P1 to be able to record best wishes.

I plugged it in and the levels are very low. Also, when I use it plugged directly into the XLR input on my Z1, I notice it doesn't sound very loud, even after adjusting the levels on my camera. Is this due to a lack of voltage or power? Its a great mic, but I'm not sure how to get it working properly with my camera. Otherwise, what would people recommend using?

Thanks in advance,
Matt

Vito DeFilippo · February 26th, 2008, 09:52 AM

Did you check to make sure your audio is set to mic level input, not line? Are you sure you have chosen XLR and not internal mic? Did you try boosting the Input Trim in the XLR Set menu?

Just a few ideas...

Vito DeFilippo · February 26th, 2008, 10:02 AM

Oops, sorry. Just noticed you said plugged into your wireless.

You could check your phamtom power button as well.

Here's a link to the user guide:

http://media.zzounds.com/media/sm58-...e07b4b7a38.pdf

Patrick Pike · February 26th, 2008, 11:02 AM

If I remember correctly, the SM58 does not need phantom. Its an excellent mic, and I doubt there is a problem with it that would cause this -- its probably an in camera issue. You were right to bypass the wireless, first solve the problem without it. I would check the sound input settings in the menu on the Z1. Chances are, there is an option to attenuate which was enabled. Or it could be mic vs. line level.

Martin Pauly · February 26th, 2008, 12:27 PM

The SM58 is a dynamic mic, so as Patrick wrote, it doesn't need phantom power. I've used an SM58 with a wireless plug-on transmitter, a Sennheiser kit, though. Remember that there are two separate audio chains that you need to setup correctly - one from the mic to the wireless transmitter, and another one from the wireless receiver into the camera. Steve House did a very nice job explaining this in a related topic:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....3&postcount=10

Bottom line: adjust the levels at the wireless transmitter, too. Make sure that when you talk at a normal volume, it transmits a useable level.

- Martin

February 26th, 2008, 06:31 AM	#1
Matt Duke Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 69	Using hand held mic for best wishes Hi guys, I was just wondering, I have a SHURE SM58 mic that I was planning on using with my wireless receiver from my Sony URX-P1 to be able to record best wishes. I plugged it in and the levels are very low. Also, when I use it plugged directly into the XLR input on my Z1, I notice it doesn't sound very loud, even after adjusting the levels on my camera. Is this due to a lack of voltage or power? Its a great mic, but I'm not sure how to get it working properly with my camera. Otherwise, what would people recommend using? Thanks in advance, Matt

February 26th, 2008, 09:52 AM	#2
Vito DeFilippo Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 1,585	Did you check to make sure your audio is set to mic level input, not line? Are you sure you have chosen XLR and not internal mic? Did you try boosting the Input Trim in the XLR Set menu? Just a few ideas... __________________ . http://www.nosmallroles.com

February 26th, 2008, 10:02 AM	#3
Vito DeFilippo Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 1,585	Oops, sorry. Just noticed you said plugged into your wireless. You could check your phamtom power button as well. Here's a link to the user guide: http://media.zzounds.com/media/sm58-...e07b4b7a38.pdf __________________ . http://www.nosmallroles.com

February 26th, 2008, 12:27 PM	#5
Martin Pauly Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 563	The SM58 is a dynamic mic, so as Patrick wrote, it doesn't need phantom power. I've used an SM58 with a wireless plug-on transmitter, a Sennheiser kit, though. Remember that there are two separate audio chains that you need to setup correctly - one from the mic to the wireless transmitter, and another one from the wireless receiver into the camera. Steve House did a very nice job explaining this in a related topic: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....3&postcount=10 Bottom line: adjust the levels at the wireless transmitter, too. Make sure that when you talk at a normal volume, it transmits a useable level. - Martin __________________ Martin Pauly

February 26th, 2008, 11:02 AM	#4
Patrick Pike Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mariposa, CA Posts: 200	If I remember correctly, the SM58 does not need phantom. Its an excellent mic, and I doubt there is a problem with it that would cause this -- its probably an in camera issue. You were right to bypass the wireless, first solve the problem without it. I would check the sound input settings in the menu on the Z1. Chances are, there is an option to attenuate which was enabled. Or it could be mic vs. line level.