"А Portrait of the Bride" at DVinfo.net

Oleg Kalyan · February 11th, 2008, 04:27 PM

In December I went to Volgograd, Russia, to make a Wedding Film,
I share with you a short piece of it called "А Portrait of the Bride"

Please Let me know what you think, It's shot on Canon A1, just one or two shots with Sony FX1.

http://olegkalyan.ru/_Quicktime/ElenaPortrait.mov

Art Varga · February 11th, 2008, 06:53 PM

Oleg - very nice! I liked the dreamy, fantasy feel to it. Killer eyes on the bride and great expressions from the kids. What settings/frame rate did you use on the A1.

Art

Ethan Cooper · February 11th, 2008, 09:32 PM

Her eyes got me too. There's just something about Russian women.
My cajun-french wife will probably hit me if she reads this.

Oh wait, was I supposed to comment on the cinematography and editing? Funny, I barely noticed those... maybe I need to watch again.

Jeremy Doyle · February 11th, 2008, 09:40 PM

I liked the video and the editing.

At the very top of the video probably the top 3 scan lines there is a lot of jumping around. Do you know what causes this? I experienced this with the last wedding I edited. Everything that I put slow mo on would get that jittery black scan line at the top of the picture. I don't know what causes this and I actually let the video go out even though this annoyed the heck out of me. The only fix I found was to scale the image to 103%, but that added a subtle softness.

Does anyone else see what I'm talking about and have any ideas how to avoid it? Is it a FCP thing? Actually I'm just assuming this was edited in FCP since I'm seeing the same funkiness I got.

Ethan Cooper · February 11th, 2008, 09:48 PM

I've seen the problem in FCP as well, but only when I'm editing DV Animorphic that was downconverted in camera on capture. I'd just assumed that it was something in the downconversion and didn't think twice about it past that.
I usually just crop a few pixels off the top and bottom when I output my MPEG2's in Compressor.

Anyone having this same problem editing native HDV? I don't see it there, but maybe you are.

Zach Stewart · February 11th, 2008, 10:13 PM

I find the same problem in Premiere Pro 2.0, but only when i downconvert from the camera. Instead of cropping, I enlarge the footage by 1 pixel overall and it takes care of it. The scan line is very noticable when the footage is slowed down. good to learn i'm not the only one with this problem...

Oleg Kalyan · February 12th, 2008, 12:57 AM

Thanks a lot, for liking it and the comments.
Shot it at 50i, I am in Pal land you know!
I will re-encode now, cropping a few pixels at the top!

Oleg Kalyan · February 12th, 2008, 04:57 AM

Re-encoded and added a FLV file for convenience
http://olegkalyan.ru/_Quicktime/Elena_Portrait.flv

I should mention that the music was by Vangelis, and I used a factory preset this time, all CC done in post on FCP.

John Moon · February 12th, 2008, 04:54 PM

Oleg:

Very nice work. I wonder if you boosted color a bit for a bit more saturation in the greens? I like the music.

Thanks,
John

Oleg Kalyan · February 12th, 2008, 06:02 PM

John, thank you, all CC done in Color Corrector, yes
I've boosted some saturation and tweaked the image a little...

Damian Clarke · February 12th, 2008, 07:13 PM

One word: captivating
With such beauty, those eyes, that music and dreamy camera motion I really was taken somewhere else. Really really cool.

Oleg Kalyan · February 13th, 2008, 12:38 AM

Damian, appreciate the comment!

I was captivated by those eyes too, good thing, I guess, together with the bride, the kids, bridesmates, we unveil the atmosphere of the day...
To be honest this is the my favorite part of the film, that consist of several parts.

February 11th, 2008, 04:27 PM	#1
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	"А Portrait of the Bride" In December I went to Volgograd, Russia, to make a Wedding Film, I share with you a short piece of it called "А Portrait of the Bride" Please Let me know what you think, It's shot on Canon A1, just one or two shots with Sony FX1. http://olegkalyan.ru/_Quicktime/ElenaPortrait.mov

February 11th, 2008, 09:32 PM	#3
Ethan Cooper Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 1,400 Images: 5	Her eyes got me too. There's just something about Russian women. My cajun-french wife will probably hit me if she reads this. Oh wait, was I supposed to comment on the cinematography and editing? Funny, I barely noticed those... maybe I need to watch again. __________________ ∅ -Ethan Cooper

February 11th, 2008, 09:48 PM	#5
Ethan Cooper Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 1,400 Images: 5	I've seen the problem in FCP as well, but only when I'm editing DV Animorphic that was downconverted in camera on capture. I'd just assumed that it was something in the downconversion and didn't think twice about it past that. I usually just crop a few pixels off the top and bottom when I output my MPEG2's in Compressor. Anyone having this same problem editing native HDV? I don't see it there, but maybe you are. __________________ ∅ -Ethan Cooper

February 12th, 2008, 04:54 PM	#9
John Moon Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 446	Oleg: Very nice work. I wonder if you boosted color a bit for a bit more saturation in the greens? I like the music. Thanks, John __________________ John J. Moon www.northernlightfilmworks.com - Event DV Top 25 Recipient

February 11th, 2008, 06:53 PM	#2
Art Varga Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belle Mead, NJ Posts: 552	Oleg - very nice! I liked the dreamy, fantasy feel to it. Killer eyes on the bride and great expressions from the kids. What settings/frame rate did you use on the A1. Art

February 11th, 2008, 09:40 PM	#4
Jeremy Doyle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brainerd, MN Posts: 287	I liked the video and the editing. At the very top of the video probably the top 3 scan lines there is a lot of jumping around. Do you know what causes this? I experienced this with the last wedding I edited. Everything that I put slow mo on would get that jittery black scan line at the top of the picture. I don't know what causes this and I actually let the video go out even though this annoyed the heck out of me. The only fix I found was to scale the image to 103%, but that added a subtle softness. Does anyone else see what I'm talking about and have any ideas how to avoid it? Is it a FCP thing? Actually I'm just assuming this was edited in FCP since I'm seeing the same funkiness I got.

February 11th, 2008, 10:13 PM	#6
Zach Stewart Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 176	I find the same problem in Premiere Pro 2.0, but only when i downconvert from the camera. Instead of cropping, I enlarge the footage by 1 pixel overall and it takes care of it. The scan line is very noticable when the footage is slowed down. good to learn i'm not the only one with this problem...

February 12th, 2008, 12:57 AM	#7
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Thanks a lot, for liking it and the comments. Shot it at 50i, I am in Pal land you know! I will re-encode now, cropping a few pixels at the top!

February 12th, 2008, 04:57 AM	#8
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Re-encoded and added a FLV file for convenience http://olegkalyan.ru/_Quicktime/Elena_Portrait.flv I should mention that the music was by Vangelis, and I used a factory preset this time, all CC done in post on FCP.

February 12th, 2008, 06:02 PM	#10
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	John, thank you, all CC done in Color Corrector, yes I've boosted some saturation and tweaked the image a little...

February 12th, 2008, 07:13 PM	#11
Damian Clarke Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lincolnshire, United Kingdom Posts: 95	One word: captivating With such beauty, those eyes, that music and dreamy camera motion I really was taken somewhere else. Really really cool.

February 13th, 2008, 12:38 AM	#12
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Damian, appreciate the comment! I was captivated by those eyes too, good thing, I guess, together with the bride, the kids, bridesmates, we unveil the atmosphere of the day... To be honest this is the my favorite part of the film, that consist of several parts.