Weddings and xh-a1

Kiflom Bahta · February 8th, 2008, 01:48 AM

You can 30f on the 60i timeline but i don't think so with 24f.

Denny Kyser · February 8th, 2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Sobodos

I use 30F and VividRGB for outdoor and Lowlight12 for indoor. The lowlight preset is bumped up in color a bit as the standard is a little flat. I also use 1/30 shutter in dim receptions along with a light.

I am very new to this too but shooting with 2 XH-A1's and do the same as above but do shoot at 60i

Joe Simon · February 11th, 2008, 04:14 PM

I use 24f at the weddings I shoot. I love the look of the 24p as well as the better low light advantage. I do however shoot on Manual focus the whole time. I have been slowing down my footage with twixor, it works amazing! It takes some time to figure it out but you can get really good results. Here is a trailer that a finished recently with slowmo-

www.joesimonproductions.com/flemingtrailer.html

You can find the twixor plug in here - www.revisionfx.com/products/twixtor/

Ethan Cooper · February 11th, 2008, 04:26 PM

Joe,
Did you say you're slowmoing 24p???? I watched your trailer and loved the clean slowmo.
I've always avoided 24p cause I'm one of those sappy slowmo/dutch angle guys and traditionally 24p looked like poop when slowed down. If you're saying that Twixtor makes 24p slowmo look good then I'm listening.

Patrick Moreau · February 11th, 2008, 04:29 PM

Looks pretty good Joe. Liked the trailer too. Thanks for sharing.

That A1 can do some great things.

Patrick

Denny Kyser · February 11th, 2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Simon

I use 24f at the weddings I shoot. I love the look of the 24p as well as the better low light advantage. I do however shoot on Manual focus the whole time. I have been slowing down my footage with twixor, it works amazing! It takes some time to figure it out but you can get really good results. Here is a trailer that a finished recently with slowmo-

www.joesimonproductions.com/flemingtrailer.html

You can find the twixor plug in here - www.revisionfx.com/products/twixtor/

Joe, you make things confusing. I was all content to settle into 60i then look at your trailer, that is awsome.

Once again some of the talent on here is amazing.

Jason Bowers · February 11th, 2008, 05:19 PM

Thanks for replying Joe,
The trailers were great, and the slo mo was astonishing, goes against everything i've heard. Was it because of twixtor or did you do something else in order to achieve that ie:really slow camera movement? Great site as well, you are very talented.

Joe Simon · February 11th, 2008, 05:31 PM

The slow-mo was done with Twixor only. The pull back shot of the flowers and shoes was at about 20% of normal speed same with the bride down the isle shot.

The exit of the couple with the pedals was the only thing that was shot on the HVX and it was shot in 24p at 60fps. A shot with pedals flying and lots of fast hand movement is hard to slow down with twixor. The twixor plug in " synthesizes unique new frames by warping and interpolating frames of the original sequence". So when you have those small moving pedals it makes it go a little crazy. But almost all shots during a wedding are not a problem to slow down with twixor.

Art Varga · February 11th, 2008, 06:37 PM

Joe that was fantastic. The demo clip on the Twixtor site is pretty cool too. I wish I could find a similar plug-in that would work in Vegas.

Art

Ger Griffin · February 11th, 2008, 06:48 PM

Joe your work is so clean and has such a nice style.
Thanks for sharing.

Kiflom Bahta · February 12th, 2008, 11:51 PM

Very Clean. i like it a lot you are not using crazy trans. It is nice and simple,

Patrick Moreau · February 13th, 2008, 12:06 AM

Here is a clip shot in 24F with a pile of A1s and an XL-H1, edited in FCP with a fair amount of slow-motion and no extra plug-ins. Looks okay, to me, but not nearly as good as what Joe posted. I wonder if twixtor could handle the time constraints of an SDE...

Art Varga · February 13th, 2008, 07:39 AM

Patrick - did you intend to insert a link to the clip you mentioned?

Patrick Moreau · February 13th, 2008, 09:43 AM

Wow, completely missed that one:

http://stillmotionblog.com/?p=332

Steve Sobodos · February 14th, 2008, 08:51 PM

Joe, what presets are you using? The demo above is amazing, very cinematic.

February 11th, 2008, 04:26 PM	#19
Ethan Cooper Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 1,400 Images: 5	Joe, Did you say you're slowmoing 24p???? I watched your trailer and loved the clean slowmo. I've always avoided 24p cause I'm one of those sappy slowmo/dutch angle guys and traditionally 24p looked like poop when slowed down. If you're saying that Twixtor makes 24p slowmo look good then I'm listening. __________________ ∅ -Ethan Cooper

February 8th, 2008, 01:48 AM	#16
Kiflom Bahta Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 203	You can 30f on the 60i timeline but i don't think so with 24f.

February 11th, 2008, 04:14 PM	#18
Joe Simon Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 86	I use 24f at the weddings I shoot. I love the look of the 24p as well as the better low light advantage. I do however shoot on Manual focus the whole time. I have been slowing down my footage with twixor, it works amazing! It takes some time to figure it out but you can get really good results. Here is a trailer that a finished recently with slowmo- www.joesimonproductions.com/flemingtrailer.html You can find the twixor plug in here - www.revisionfx.com/products/twixtor/

February 11th, 2008, 04:29 PM	#20
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Looks pretty good Joe. Liked the trailer too. Thanks for sharing. That A1 can do some great things. Patrick

February 11th, 2008, 05:19 PM	#22
Jason Bowers Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thunder Bay, ON. Canada Posts: 374	Thanks for replying Joe, The trailers were great, and the slo mo was astonishing, goes against everything i've heard. Was it because of twixtor or did you do something else in order to achieve that ie:really slow camera movement? Great site as well, you are very talented.

February 11th, 2008, 05:31 PM	#23
Joe Simon Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 86	The slow-mo was done with Twixor only. The pull back shot of the flowers and shoes was at about 20% of normal speed same with the bride down the isle shot. The exit of the couple with the pedals was the only thing that was shot on the HVX and it was shot in 24p at 60fps. A shot with pedals flying and lots of fast hand movement is hard to slow down with twixor. The twixor plug in " synthesizes unique new frames by warping and interpolating frames of the original sequence". So when you have those small moving pedals it makes it go a little crazy. But almost all shots during a wedding are not a problem to slow down with twixor.

February 11th, 2008, 06:37 PM	#24
Art Varga Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belle Mead, NJ Posts: 552	Joe that was fantastic. The demo clip on the Twixtor site is pretty cool too. I wish I could find a similar plug-in that would work in Vegas. Art

February 11th, 2008, 06:48 PM	#25
Ger Griffin Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 579	Joe your work is so clean and has such a nice style. Thanks for sharing.

February 12th, 2008, 11:51 PM	#26
Kiflom Bahta Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 203	Very Clean. i like it a lot you are not using crazy trans. It is nice and simple,

February 13th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#27
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Here is a clip shot in 24F with a pile of A1s and an XL-H1, edited in FCP with a fair amount of slow-motion and no extra plug-ins. Looks okay, to me, but not nearly as good as what Joe posted. I wonder if twixtor could handle the time constraints of an SDE...

February 13th, 2008, 07:39 AM	#28
Art Varga Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belle Mead, NJ Posts: 552	Patrick - did you intend to insert a link to the clip you mentioned?

February 13th, 2008, 09:43 AM	#29
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Wow, completely missed that one: http://stillmotionblog.com/?p=332

February 14th, 2008, 08:51 PM	#30
Steve Sobodos Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 106	Joe, what presets are you using? The demo above is amazing, very cinematic.