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Wayne Greensill · November 11th, 2007, 03:56 AM

Hi there

Just a quick question.

How do you guys go about capturing your video footage off your camera to pc?

For example do you load it all on in one go or do you batch all your shots?

I'm using the Matrox RTx2 with Adobe PP2 and the Sony Dcr VX2100 and I was just wondering the best way to go about geting off the camera then into Adobe ready for easier editing.

I look forward to your comments.

Regards
Wayne

George Bean · November 11th, 2007, 12:09 PM

I capture the tape in its entirety to a folder on the drive. After capturing individual folders are created for each segment of the tape. Clips from the main capture folder are moved to a pre ceremony folder, ceremony clips to a ceremony folder, reception clips to a reception folder, etc..

After all of the clips in the main capture folder are moved i use the batch rename function of the irfanview software. Irfanview is a free download available here:

http://www.irfanview.com/

I repeat this for all of the tapes.

When finished I have a pre-ceremony folder with two subfolders
Camera One, Camera Two.

A ceremony folder with three subfolders
camera one, camera two, camera three.

A reception folder with two subfolders,
camera one, camera two.

The subfolders have more specific names than camone such as balcony cam.
Each folder contains the clips numbered sequentially beginning with 001.

In premiere the folders are imported and each designated to its own sequence, this keeps the timeline and project windows organized.

hope this helps

Nick Weeks · November 11th, 2007, 12:47 PM

I also capture it all. Much faster selecting clips on your computer then having to constantly rew and ff your tape, not to mention the wear you save on your transport :)

I usually name the clips accoring to their camera, etc. For example, on a wedding, I will do SmithWedding_002_C1, SmithWedding003_C2, etc. etc.

SmithWedding - description of the video
002, 003 - tape number)
C1, C2 - Camera angle

This makes it easy to work with. I keep a seperate piece of paper with what footage is actually there, like 001: Ceremony, 002: Reception, and so on

Although I use Final Cut, I think you can use this same technique

Don Bloom · November 11th, 2007, 04:58 PM

I too capture the complete tape. Put it in the deck hit capture and let it go. While thats going on 1 machine I edit on another. Once I'm ready to edit the job then I look at the clips, can't do anything about them anyway until then.
I agree, I don't need to FF and REW all the time. (this applies to weddings and seminar type work not work that has scenes setup such as informational or training videos)
I simply apply a name such a the B&Gs last names and tape number:IE 1-1, 1-2, 2-1 etc. I know pretty much whats on each tape and have marked the job bag label and shooters notes in the bag with that info.
Don

Matthew Ebenezer · November 13th, 2007, 10:33 PM

I used to REW/FF and choose the best bits.

Now I just capture the whole tape on one computer while I edit on another.

Even before I got my 2nd computer capturing the whole tape saved me heaps of time. It really improved the speed of my workflow.

I figure I've got to go through the footage anyway so why not be doubly productive by capturing the whole tape while I'm doing something else.

Ger Griffin · November 14th, 2007, 01:17 PM

Im putting everything from a particular wedding into one folder.
name of b&g, cam# and tape number.

Im using scene detect.

it splits each clip.

i prefer this because it allows me to delete unused and not needed waste using adobe bridge.
on the timeline rightclick the clip, choose reveal in project, in the project window right click the clip & choose reveal in bridge. then delete from bridge.

Peter Chung · December 6th, 2007, 10:11 AM

It used to be that you would have to choose which sections of the tape you wanted to capture because hard drive space used to be so limited and more expensive. Nowadays, that isn't so much a problem so capturing the whole tape will probably work out better for you.

Andre Tira · December 6th, 2007, 10:16 AM

does PP CS3 have scene detect? if so, where?

Tom Hardwick · December 6th, 2007, 02:05 PM

Yes, capture the the complete wedding to your HDD, warts and all. Means that I have 5 hours on a Sunday morning to read the paper, there's far less wear and tear on the decks mechanism, GBs are cheap and huge chunks of the timeline can be cut away with one click of the mouse.

tom.

Yang Wen · December 6th, 2007, 02:08 PM

I capture the whole tape and Scene detect is a MUST for me..

This way, I can easily identify and remember bad clips by their thumbnail. If the whole tape is captured as one huge file, it's difficult to keep track the content in that video file.

Stelios Christofides · December 6th, 2007, 03:36 PM

This is where the Sony XDCAM EX comes in....

Stelios

Yang Wen · December 6th, 2007, 04:10 PM

flash memory based cameras like the Sony is welcoming but in the current iteration, it only solves two issues but creates others.

Solves: capture time is greatly reduced. Dropouts are history(hopefully).

Creates: Cost of media is high. You need a laptop onsite to dump your footage to.

If memory price comes down, then it would be a no brainer to go with a flash memory camera for event coverage.

November 11th, 2007, 03:56 AM	#1
Wayne Greensill Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 132	How do you guys do ? Hi there Just a quick question. How do you guys go about capturing your video footage off your camera to pc? For example do you load it all on in one go or do you batch all your shots? I'm using the Matrox RTx2 with Adobe PP2 and the Sony Dcr VX2100 and I was just wondering the best way to go about geting off the camera then into Adobe ready for easier editing. I look forward to your comments. Regards Wayne

December 6th, 2007, 10:16 AM	#8
Andre Tira Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 83	scene detect? does PP CS3 have scene detect? if so, where?

December 6th, 2007, 03:36 PM	#11
Stelios Christofides Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nicosia, CYPRUS Posts: 1,080	This is where the Sony XDCAM EX comes in.... Stelios __________________ My Blog: http://steliosc.blogspot.com "I hope for nothing, I fear nothing, I am free" Nikos Kazantzakis

November 11th, 2007, 12:09 PM	#2
George Bean Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 248	I capture the tape in its entirety to a folder on the drive. After capturing individual folders are created for each segment of the tape. Clips from the main capture folder are moved to a pre ceremony folder, ceremony clips to a ceremony folder, reception clips to a reception folder, etc.. After all of the clips in the main capture folder are moved i use the batch rename function of the irfanview software. Irfanview is a free download available here: http://www.irfanview.com/ I repeat this for all of the tapes. When finished I have a pre-ceremony folder with two subfolders Camera One, Camera Two. A ceremony folder with three subfolders camera one, camera two, camera three. A reception folder with two subfolders, camera one, camera two. The subfolders have more specific names than camone such as balcony cam. Each folder contains the clips numbered sequentially beginning with 001. In premiere the folders are imported and each designated to its own sequence, this keeps the timeline and project windows organized. hope this helps

November 11th, 2007, 12:47 PM	#3
Nick Weeks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 722	I also capture it all. Much faster selecting clips on your computer then having to constantly rew and ff your tape, not to mention the wear you save on your transport :) I usually name the clips accoring to their camera, etc. For example, on a wedding, I will do SmithWedding_002_C1, SmithWedding003_C2, etc. etc. SmithWedding - description of the video 002, 003 - tape number) C1, C2 - Camera angle This makes it easy to work with. I keep a seperate piece of paper with what footage is actually there, like 001: Ceremony, 002: Reception, and so on Although I use Final Cut, I think you can use this same technique

November 11th, 2007, 04:58 PM	#4
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	I too capture the complete tape. Put it in the deck hit capture and let it go. While thats going on 1 machine I edit on another. Once I'm ready to edit the job then I look at the clips, can't do anything about them anyway until then. I agree, I don't need to FF and REW all the time. (this applies to weddings and seminar type work not work that has scenes setup such as informational or training videos) I simply apply a name such a the B&Gs last names and tape number:IE 1-1, 1-2, 2-1 etc. I know pretty much whats on each tape and have marked the job bag label and shooters notes in the bag with that info. Don

November 13th, 2007, 10:33 PM	#5
Matthew Ebenezer Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Posts: 370	I used to REW/FF and choose the best bits. Now I just capture the whole tape on one computer while I edit on another. Even before I got my 2nd computer capturing the whole tape saved me heaps of time. It really improved the speed of my workflow. I figure I've got to go through the footage anyway so why not be doubly productive by capturing the whole tape while I'm doing something else.

November 14th, 2007, 01:17 PM	#6
Ger Griffin Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 579	Im putting everything from a particular wedding into one folder. name of b&g, cam# and tape number. Im using scene detect. it splits each clip. i prefer this because it allows me to delete unused and not needed waste using adobe bridge. on the timeline rightclick the clip, choose reveal in project, in the project window right click the clip & choose reveal in bridge. then delete from bridge.

December 6th, 2007, 10:11 AM	#7
Peter Chung Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 220	It used to be that you would have to choose which sections of the tape you wanted to capture because hard drive space used to be so limited and more expensive. Nowadays, that isn't so much a problem so capturing the whole tape will probably work out better for you.

December 6th, 2007, 02:05 PM	#9
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Yes, capture the the complete wedding to your HDD, warts and all. Means that I have 5 hours on a Sunday morning to read the paper, there's far less wear and tear on the decks mechanism, GBs are cheap and huge chunks of the timeline can be cut away with one click of the mouse. tom.

December 6th, 2007, 02:08 PM	#10
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	I capture the whole tape and Scene detect is a MUST for me.. This way, I can easily identify and remember bad clips by their thumbnail. If the whole tape is captured as one huge file, it's difficult to keep track the content in that video file.

December 6th, 2007, 04:10 PM	#12
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	flash memory based cameras like the Sony is welcoming but in the current iteration, it only solves two issues but creates others. Solves: capture time is greatly reduced. Dropouts are history(hopefully). Creates: Cost of media is high. You need a laptop onsite to dump your footage to. If memory price comes down, then it would be a no brainer to go with a flash memory camera for event coverage.