Do you ask brides whether they want progressive or interlaced?

Colby Knight · September 24th, 2007, 06:34 PM

My point in all this was that saying all brides want a movie look was delivered as an absolute statement.

And we all know... only a SITH speaks in absolutes! :)

Kenneth Johnson · September 24th, 2007, 07:18 PM

lets just hire the 5 year olds and forget about doing the work. So far nobody has brought up filming a wedding with camera phones. we could start a whole new trend.
ask the bride...
1 do you want hd or sd
2 progressive or interlaced
3 5 year old doing the work
4 camera phones
5 how about the editing software
6 do you want 1 or 3 dvd copies
7 do you want color disks
8 what type of disks
9 and so on,,, and so on,,,

personaly i think the camera phone would start a whole new trend. they are making movies with them now. just one question,,,, would that be interlaced or progressive cell phone video

Daniel Ross · September 24th, 2007, 11:55 PM

Mike, absolutely right.
I wasn't making a judgment in general about anything, except for the specific question asked.

Colby and Kenneth, you seem to be taking this as a personal attack. You said it, Kenneth, I can't win.
And, honestly, I don't really care that much. I do think shooting progressive is the best answer for the original question, but... //shrug.
You don't have to agree with me.

Colby, I meant to say that progressive is better than interlaced in this case. I didn't mean to use inductive logic to prove that all brides want the movie look. You're the one taking it as an absolute. Would you feel better if I gave it as a percent? Heh.

Kenneth, if you could shoot on 35mm file with no disadvantage, would you? Of course. In the same sense, progressive is, as far as I know from most people I have talked to, better. Interlaced doesn't make something worthless, but, generally, progressive is better. No?
You're taking the 5 year old example too far.
And, yeah, you're right. It IS better to not shoot with a camera phone. So isn't more resolution better? Isn't a less accessible, professional format better? Is progressive not this?

Colby Knight · September 25th, 2007, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Colby, I meant to say that progressive is better than interlaced in this case. I didn't mean to use inductive logic to prove that all brides want the movie look. You're the one taking it as an absolute. Would you feel better if I gave it as a percent?

As a matter of fact... :)

Just kidding. This made for good dialogue and your opinions are respected.

Chris Harris · September 25th, 2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenneth Johnson

personaly i think the camera phone would start a whole new trend. they are making movies with them now. just one question,,,, would that be interlaced or progressive cell phone video

Hmm... there might be something to that. Just like people often go for that "old film look" with the scratches, discoloration, whatever, you could do a "cell phone look", with the low bitrate, low resolution, 15fps look.

Kenneth Johnson · September 25th, 2007, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Harris

Hmm... there might be something to that. Just like people often go for that "old film look" with the scratches, discoloration, whatever, you could do a "cell phone look", with the low bitrate, low resolution, 15fps look.

yes but we still have the same question do you ask the bride progressive or interlaced?? I personaly do not know af any cell phones that are interchangable but perhaps the sony might team up with at&t and make one.

Camera phone with large sensor.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20060217148.html

alright,,,WHO toke my idea and got the patent

NEC develops 8MP CMOS sensor for cameraphones
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/25/n...-cameraphones/

CamPhone Lens Turret
Aftermarket camera phone faceplate with lens selector

http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/CamPhone_20Lens_20Turret

do we not have anything better to do with are time guys????

I think we got so busy asking the brides about what type of video to shoot that they decided not to get married as it was too much of a hassle to get a video photographer.

Seun Osewa · September 30th, 2007, 05:39 PM

If they are going to watch the DVD in a movie theatre, shoot progressive.
If they are going to watch it on a normal interlaced TV set, shoot interlaced!

Daniel Ross · September 30th, 2007, 06:32 PM

And a progressive TV set? Projector? Computer?

Interlaced TVs can display progressive just fine. It just shows every other line each time, so it's just a choppier way of displaying the progressive frame and it will look the same to the viewer in the end.

September 24th, 2007, 06:34 PM	#31
Colby Knight Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 111	My point in all this was that saying all brides want a movie look was delivered as an absolute statement. And we all know... only a SITH speaks in absolutes! :)

September 24th, 2007, 07:18 PM	#32
Kenneth Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 70	lets just hire the 5 year olds and forget about doing the work. So far nobody has brought up filming a wedding with camera phones. we could start a whole new trend. ask the bride... 1 do you want hd or sd 2 progressive or interlaced 3 5 year old doing the work 4 camera phones 5 how about the editing software 6 do you want 1 or 3 dvd copies 7 do you want color disks 8 what type of disks 9 and so on,,, and so on,,, personaly i think the camera phone would start a whole new trend. they are making movies with them now. just one question,,,, would that be interlaced or progressive cell phone video

September 24th, 2007, 11:55 PM	#33
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	Mike, absolutely right. I wasn't making a judgment in general about anything, except for the specific question asked. Colby and Kenneth, you seem to be taking this as a personal attack. You said it, Kenneth, I can't win. And, honestly, I don't really care that much. I do think shooting progressive is the best answer for the original question, but... //shrug. You don't have to agree with me. Colby, I meant to say that progressive is better than interlaced in this case. I didn't mean to use inductive logic to prove that all brides want the movie look. You're the one taking it as an absolute. Would you feel better if I gave it as a percent? Heh. Kenneth, if you could shoot on 35mm file with no disadvantage, would you? Of course. In the same sense, progressive is, as far as I know from most people I have talked to, better. Interlaced doesn't make something worthless, but, generally, progressive is better. No? You're taking the 5 year old example too far. And, yeah, you're right. It IS better to not shoot with a camera phone. So isn't more resolution better? Isn't a less accessible, professional format better? Is progressive not this?

September 30th, 2007, 05:39 PM	#37
Seun Osewa Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Africa Posts: 255	If they are going to watch the DVD in a movie theatre, shoot progressive. If they are going to watch it on a normal interlaced TV set, shoot interlaced!

September 30th, 2007, 06:32 PM	#38
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	And a progressive TV set? Projector? Computer? Interlaced TVs can display progressive just fine. It just shows every other line each time, so it's just a choppier way of displaying the progressive frame and it will look the same to the viewer in the end.