Aug 4th Same-Day Edit at DVinfo.net

Patrick Moreau · August 5th, 2007, 09:00 AM

I think we are really starting to get into a groove with the whole SDE process over the past 2-3 we have done and it has really allowed us to take them to another level. As you do more of these you really start to notice how much the workflow and experience can really mean to the final product.

Here is yesterdays same-day edit. Comments/critqiue are always welcome.

http://stillmotionblog.com/?p=158

FYI, this clip was shot with Canon A1s on a steadicam, merlins, as well as one a brevis. We also had one HVX on a brevis for a total of way to many cameras. Michael Wong and Tony Edgar who are also members of this forum shot this along with me. Michael did all the crane shots at the ending while I was editing and I think they really tie the ending together and give it a little more power.

Patrick

Vito DeFilippo · August 5th, 2007, 09:42 AM

Hey Patrick,

I loved it. Especially your shooting as usual. You have a great eye and technique.

I'm not sure if the constant slow motion worked for me, though perhaps it's a wise choice considering the function of the video. And I've seen other video where you incorporate photos, and it worked for me, but not this time. I think maybe because the first photo came fairly late in the video. Perhaps if I had seen a couple nearer the beginning, by mind would have accepted it better.

How did you do those shots that look like a time lapse of sunlight moving over the object (the necklace, shoes). Looks great. Did you move a light?

I think one of the things I like the most is the sense that you are unhurried in your work. I always feel in a rush running around with one camera. It's great to see what you can do when you have time! I mean, you brought a crane?

Can you elaborate a bit on how the smoother workflow is changing things? I'm curious if you try to dedicate one cam to the SDE shots, or it not, how you handle capturing particular clips. Do you log and capture just what you need for the edit?

Okay, I'm done buttering you up for now. Great work...

Cheers,
Vito

Kent Mitomi · August 5th, 2007, 10:43 AM

Hi Patrick,
That was really great SDE. I have only been doing videography for 2 and half years and you had some great camera shots. The crane effect is what I am trying to work on and your looked so smooth. Thanks for sharing your work.

Kent

Monday Isa · August 5th, 2007, 12:12 PM

Hey Patrick, thanks for sharing your clip. Was a pleasure to watch. As others have said your crane shots at the end are spectacular. Keep up the great work.

Monday

Patrick Moreau · August 5th, 2007, 04:43 PM

Thanks Kent and Monday.

I agree that Michael's crane shots are pretty wild. I really love how we can add this level of quality to our same-day edits and start approaching having our same-day edits be close in quality to the highlights we normally deliver well after the wedding.

Vito,

I actually just made another post about training DVDs. I would be interested to get your feedback as it relates to your questions below.

About being unhurried, we normally try to schedule extra time i the morning so we can be creative and work with what is there, rather than trying to rush to get it done. As we show couples more of our work, they generally become more receptive to scheduling their coverage around what we think will work best.

Patrick

Jon Anderson · August 5th, 2007, 07:22 PM

As usual, awesome stuff Patrick. I especially like your use of shadow with the necklace and rings. Very nice touch.

Travis Cossel · August 6th, 2007, 03:53 PM

Four thumbs up!

Patrick Moreau · August 6th, 2007, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Cossel

Four thumbs up!

Wow, thanks Travis. I don't think I have ever gotten more than two before!

Travis Cossel · August 6th, 2007, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Moreau

Wow, thanks Travis. I don't think I have ever gotten more than two before!

Well, anyone who does an SDE already gets 2 thumbs up from me, lol. Doing one very well has to get something more. d;-)

Alan Doheny · August 7th, 2007, 04:37 AM

Super - loved it, as everyone else has already said, the crane shots & time lapse on the shadow shot were just super - the fact that it was a SDE makes it all the more impressive IMO

Richard Wakefield · August 7th, 2007, 05:02 AM

loved it as per usual..

why do people think it's a time-lapse shot? it's just a hand-held light being waved from right to left, surely?! am ready to eat my hat if i'm wrong!

Steven Davis · August 7th, 2007, 06:25 AM

Hey Patrick, you do both the video and photo right?

Vito DeFilippo · August 7th, 2007, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wakefield

it's just a hand-held light being waved from right to left, surely?! am ready to eat my hat if i'm wrong!

Yeah, I thought it was the same thing. Nice effect though, and it does look like a time lapse.

Patrick Moreau · August 7th, 2007, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis

Hey Patrick, you do both the video and photo right?

Yes we do. For this, I only shot some of the video and did the same-day editing. We had several others there helping with the shooting of photo and video. I think you need a fairly big team to pull off a good SDE while also not sacrificing the quality of the final video. We always cover the photo-session as well, which doesn't give us any down time where we need no video coverage.

Patrick

Patrick Moreau · August 7th, 2007, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wakefield

loved it as per usual..

why do people think it's a time-lapse shot? it's just a hand-held light being waved from right to left, surely?! am ready to eat my hat if i'm wrong!

That shot was a time lapse of a sunset. We just setup the cam and rings at the reception hall and let it run for the 20 minutes of sunset. I then work with the colors and speed in post and there you go :)

August 5th, 2007, 09:00 AM	#1
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Aug 4th Same-Day Edit I think we are really starting to get into a groove with the whole SDE process over the past 2-3 we have done and it has really allowed us to take them to another level. As you do more of these you really start to notice how much the workflow and experience can really mean to the final product. Here is yesterdays same-day edit. Comments/critqiue are always welcome. http://stillmotionblog.com/?p=158 FYI, this clip was shot with Canon A1s on a steadicam, merlins, as well as one a brevis. We also had one HVX on a brevis for a total of way to many cameras. Michael Wong and Tony Edgar who are also members of this forum shot this along with me. Michael did all the crane shots at the ending while I was editing and I think they really tie the ending together and give it a little more power. Patrick Last edited by Patrick Moreau; August 5th, 2007 at 12:15 PM.

August 5th, 2007, 09:42 AM	#2
Vito DeFilippo Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 1,585	Hey Patrick, I loved it. Especially your shooting as usual. You have a great eye and technique. I'm not sure if the constant slow motion worked for me, though perhaps it's a wise choice considering the function of the video. And I've seen other video where you incorporate photos, and it worked for me, but not this time. I think maybe because the first photo came fairly late in the video. Perhaps if I had seen a couple nearer the beginning, by mind would have accepted it better. How did you do those shots that look like a time lapse of sunlight moving over the object (the necklace, shoes). Looks great. Did you move a light? I think one of the things I like the most is the sense that you are unhurried in your work. I always feel in a rush running around with one camera. It's great to see what you can do when you have time! I mean, you brought a crane? Can you elaborate a bit on how the smoother workflow is changing things? I'm curious if you try to dedicate one cam to the SDE shots, or it not, how you handle capturing particular clips. Do you log and capture just what you need for the edit? Okay, I'm done buttering you up for now. Great work... Cheers, Vito __________________ . http://www.nosmallroles.com Last edited by Vito DeFilippo; August 5th, 2007 at 01:13 PM.

August 6th, 2007, 03:53 PM	#7
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	Four thumbs up! __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

August 7th, 2007, 06:25 AM	#12
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Hey Patrick, you do both the video and photo right? __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

August 5th, 2007, 10:43 AM	#3
Kent Mitomi New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 5	Hi Patrick, That was really great SDE. I have only been doing videography for 2 and half years and you had some great camera shots. The crane effect is what I am trying to work on and your looked so smooth. Thanks for sharing your work. Kent

August 5th, 2007, 12:12 PM	#4
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	Hey Patrick, thanks for sharing your clip. Was a pleasure to watch. As others have said your crane shots at the end are spectacular. Keep up the great work. Monday

August 5th, 2007, 04:43 PM	#5
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Thanks Kent and Monday. I agree that Michael's crane shots are pretty wild. I really love how we can add this level of quality to our same-day edits and start approaching having our same-day edits be close in quality to the highlights we normally deliver well after the wedding. Vito, I actually just made another post about training DVDs. I would be interested to get your feedback as it relates to your questions below. About being unhurried, we normally try to schedule extra time i the morning so we can be creative and work with what is there, rather than trying to rush to get it done. As we show couples more of our work, they generally become more receptive to scheduling their coverage around what we think will work best. Patrick

August 5th, 2007, 07:22 PM	#6
Jon Anderson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 46	As usual, awesome stuff Patrick. I especially like your use of shadow with the necklace and rings. Very nice touch.

August 7th, 2007, 04:37 AM	#10
Alan Doheny New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 20	Super - loved it, as everyone else has already said, the crane shots & time lapse on the shadow shot were just super - the fact that it was a SDE makes it all the more impressive IMO

August 7th, 2007, 05:02 AM	#11
Richard Wakefield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 680	loved it as per usual.. why do people think it's a time-lapse shot? it's just a hand-held light being waved from right to left, surely?! am ready to eat my hat if i'm wrong!