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Old April 18th, 2003, 02:03 AM   #1
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2.35 field monitor?

Hey all,

With Optex having finally made a 16:9 adapter for the XL1s, my next feature is going to be shot 2.35:1 using that with the in-camera 16:9 added. Does anyone happen to know if there is a field monitor available that can resolve an anamorphic 2.35 signal so I don't have to look at everything all skooshed?

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Old April 18th, 2003, 02:31 PM   #2
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I had my Sony 9" modified with a switch to handle anamorphic images, but I don't know of any CRT monitors that are built with this capability.
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Old April 18th, 2003, 06:53 PM   #3
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This may not be what you're looking for, but the following site has info on all the "secret codes" needed to access hidden service menus on major brands of TV sets. You could use this to adjust the vertical size of the image and get the desired aspect ratio on a small screen TV: http://209.145.176.7/~090/awh/how2adj.html#5
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Old April 18th, 2003, 07:35 PM   #4
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The new monitors have switchable aspect ratio .I know the JVC's do for sure.

This is a canadian site but they're all the same spec.
http://www.jvc.ca/en/pro/product-detail.asp?model=TM-910SU

For less than $600 US you can get underscan, blue check and switchable aspect ratio.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bh2.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___127285___JVTM910SU___REG___CatID=1981___SI D=F4DAB5891A0
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Old April 18th, 2003, 11:49 PM   #5
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Try this, for $600:

http://www.nebtek.com/7inch/neb70.html
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Old April 19th, 2003, 01:04 AM   #6
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The CRT will still knock the pants of of any LCD. The LCD will not have bluecheck or underscan..
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Old April 19th, 2003, 01:22 AM   #7
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Bryan,
The unit that Chris points to is actually a Panasonic 7" LCD monitor. I own one and can say that it's head-and-shoulders above its peers in brightness and resolution. It can be operated off a/c or 12v power as-is. Nebtek can also adapt it to run off of standard 7.2v BP series Canon batteries making it a very handy accessory, especially for XL1s owners.

True, it does not have the same calibration facilities that a CRT monitor features (ex: blue-only and underscan display) but it shows pretty darn true colors and it does display the entire video frame wall-to-wall (unlike built-in camera LCD's). Most germane to Shawn's original question, it does feature several built-in display modes, one of which is 16:9 (just like a Sony production monitor).

So, no, it's not appropriate for use as a color-correction platform. But it -is- a very good, compact, lightweight alternative to schlepping (in my case) a 12 lb 8" Sony 8042Q field monitor.
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Old April 19th, 2003, 01:34 AM   #8
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Quite right, I did not mean it as a replacement for a pro CRT field monitor. Just offering a relatively inexpensive alternative is all.
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Old April 19th, 2003, 05:30 AM   #9
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Thanks for all the replies everyone...
Unfortunately, a monitor with anamorphic 16:9 will only unsquish my image halfway, does anyone know of a monitor that will handle a full 2.35:1?

Thanks again for any help anyone can offer.

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Old April 19th, 2003, 10:39 AM   #10
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Unfortunately, I think we're back to where Charles started. No, I know of no monitor that will display this image correctly.
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Old April 19th, 2003, 11:42 AM   #11
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Sorry if I'm missing something, but why don't you just use a 16:9 monitor and mask it off to 2.35:1 with tape or something? Then in post you can crop as needed. Unless I'm mistaken there is no advantage to using the "electronic 16:9" anyway (although I'm aware of some controversy on this topic :-)
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Old April 23rd, 2003, 10:36 AM   #12
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Boyd is correct. Instead of cropping you could also resize it in post
for the same effect.

I also know of no monitor that can display anamorphic 2.35 signals.
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Old April 28th, 2003, 09:16 AM   #13
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2.35:1 anamorphic

You might try using a 1.77x anamorphic fresnel...I've seen a number of companies that make cylindrical fresnels...I believe you can take two of them , invert one, and you get an anamorphic image. I'm currently researching this...I'll post the info if I have a quick answer or if I start selling corrective kits.
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Old April 28th, 2003, 12:28 PM   #14
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Re: 2.35:1 anamorphic

<<<-- Originally posted by Brandt Wilson : You might try using a 1.77x anamorphic fresnel -->>>

Problem with this is that he wants 2:35:1. If you add a 1.77:1 lens (isn't it really 1.78 or 1.7777 :-) to an existing 1.78:1 image the resulting aspect ratio should be 3.16:1, more like Cinerama...
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Old April 28th, 2003, 02:34 PM   #15
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I thank you all for your replies, but it does seem as if I'm out of luck on this one. Does anyone maybe know of a device that will convert a 16:9 image for display on a 4:3 monitor? If something like that exists, perhaps I could use that in conjunction with a 16:9 monitor to achieve my 2.35 image. And if nothing like that exists, then why not? Some one must be slipping.

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