Sony 232 widescreen arrived at DVinfo.net

Stewart Menelaws · March 30th, 2006, 12:47 PM

Hi Folks - Our second Hi Def Sony monitor arrived yesterday (first one was the superb portable 8.4" LMD9050) - the Hi Def LMD 232 widescreen (23") which we are using for editing... this replaces our SD high res JVC monitor. We were expecting to purchase the Hi Def JVC 17" monitor but this is still not available in the UK. We got a good deal on the 232 and I'm glad we got this instead. Stunning picture quality... all the usual pro controls on the seperate control unit... hooked up via JVC BR50 Deck. It's very reasuring working with these 2 monitors and if you are in the business for a quality hi def field and studio monitor set-up these units really are excellent.

Stu...
www.studioscotland.co.uk

Vincent Rozenberg · March 30th, 2006, 01:59 PM

Thanks for the review Stewart! A question: How does it perform with SD material? I presume it's gonna uprez it so it won't look that nice.

Kevin Wild · March 30th, 2006, 02:55 PM

I'm interested, as well, about the SD. The Dell 2405fp through HDLink just isn't working out as well as I had hoped...strange issues.

Thanks.

Kevin

Stewart Menelaws · March 30th, 2006, 05:34 PM

Vincent / kevin: The issue of how SD material would look was something I was keen to see...

With the JVC HD101E attached to the monitor in DV mode the picture was very good. When in HDV mode the picture was just knock out! and focusing was a breeze! - I would love to carry this monitor around shoots if we could, although having used the 8.4" LMD9050 in the field a few days ago running of an IDX battery was just a joy to use.

With the Monitor hooked up to the Mac G5 (via BR50 Deck) we played some DV footage shot on the HD101 and it looked very good indeed.... in fact we played a number of short commercials we had made with this camera and they really did look great... far better than I would have thought. Another point - we knocked up a greenscreen movie for our website (you can see it under "chroma" in the video section) and I thought this would fall apart on the big monitor - but it really looks very good for what it is.

I thought we would still keep our SD JVC hi res monitor connected so we could show clients SD editing on that... but that will not be needed now as I have no worries about showing SD footage on the Sony 232.

I know these are expensive solutions guys but I am glad we bought them for many reasons. Hope this helps...

Regards: Stu...
www.studioscotland.co.uk

Vincent Rozenberg · March 31st, 2006, 05:24 AM

Thanks for the info! How do you connect? Via the Component or the extra SDI board?

Stewart Menelaws · March 31st, 2006, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent Rozenberg

Thanks for the info! How do you connect? Via the Component or the extra SDI board?

The JVC HD101 is conected via component... the Sony monitors handle HD through the component inputs. (They had an error in the way they had this described on the Sony website, this will be getting changed)

The Sony 232 is conected via component to the JVC BR50 deck and then by Firewire to the G5 Mac.

Regards: Stu...
www.studioscotland.co.uk

Shawn Redford · April 2nd, 2006, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Wild

I'm interested, as well, about the SD. The Dell 2405fp through HDLink just isn't working out as well as I had hoped...strange issues.

Kevin - Could you elaborate on your problems with the Dell 2405? Thanks.

Kevin Wild · April 2nd, 2006, 01:45 PM

I have it hooked up via the HDLink. First of all, the Dell monitor is extremely bright. It looks very sharp, but it's very hard to judge colors with it given how bright it is. I tried to adjust via the utility BlackMagic gives you, but it doesn't have a Setup, black or white levels. I've been unable to get any questions answered from them about getting a "lookup table" for the Dell, either.

The picture using this method does not quite fill the screen. That's fine, and the black letterbox on the top and bottom is not that distracting. However, when using my setup and playing Canon's H1-shot footage, there is a flicker that is often happening in this letterbox. Again, it's sleight, but there.

Finally, one other annoyance with this method is that when SD footage plays back on the 2405, it won't scale up. It is pixel for pixel, so it plays in a small box in the center of the screen.

Not all of these are 2405 problems only. Some are related to the whole system. But either way, I may soon switch to a dedicated HD monitor rather than this hacked setup. Afterall, the 2405 is really made to be a computer monitor...

Hope this helps.

Kevin

March 30th, 2006, 12:47 PM	#1
Stewart Menelaws Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scotland (UK) Posts: 219	Sony 232 widescreen arrived Hi Folks - Our second Hi Def Sony monitor arrived yesterday (first one was the superb portable 8.4" LMD9050) - the Hi Def LMD 232 widescreen (23") which we are using for editing... this replaces our SD high res JVC monitor. We were expecting to purchase the Hi Def JVC 17" monitor but this is still not available in the UK. We got a good deal on the 232 and I'm glad we got this instead. Stunning picture quality... all the usual pro controls on the seperate control unit... hooked up via JVC BR50 Deck. It's very reasuring working with these 2 monitors and if you are in the business for a quality hi def field and studio monitor set-up these units really are excellent. Stu... www.studioscotland.co.uk

March 30th, 2006, 01:59 PM	#2
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	Thanks for the review Stewart! A question: How does it perform with SD material? I presume it's gonna uprez it so it won't look that nice.

March 30th, 2006, 02:55 PM	#3
Kevin Wild Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 540	I'm interested, as well, about the SD. The Dell 2405fp through HDLink just isn't working out as well as I had hoped...strange issues. Thanks. Kevin

March 30th, 2006, 05:34 PM	#4
Stewart Menelaws Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scotland (UK) Posts: 219	Vincent / kevin: The issue of how SD material would look was something I was keen to see... With the JVC HD101E attached to the monitor in DV mode the picture was very good. When in HDV mode the picture was just knock out! and focusing was a breeze! - I would love to carry this monitor around shoots if we could, although having used the 8.4" LMD9050 in the field a few days ago running of an IDX battery was just a joy to use. With the Monitor hooked up to the Mac G5 (via BR50 Deck) we played some DV footage shot on the HD101 and it looked very good indeed.... in fact we played a number of short commercials we had made with this camera and they really did look great... far better than I would have thought. Another point - we knocked up a greenscreen movie for our website (you can see it under "chroma" in the video section) and I thought this would fall apart on the big monitor - but it really looks very good for what it is. I thought we would still keep our SD JVC hi res monitor connected so we could show clients SD editing on that... but that will not be needed now as I have no worries about showing SD footage on the Sony 232. I know these are expensive solutions guys but I am glad we bought them for many reasons. Hope this helps... Regards: Stu... www.studioscotland.co.uk

March 31st, 2006, 05:24 AM	#5
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	Thanks for the info! How do you connect? Via the Component or the extra SDI board?

April 2nd, 2006, 01:45 PM	#8
Kevin Wild Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 540	I have it hooked up via the HDLink. First of all, the Dell monitor is extremely bright. It looks very sharp, but it's very hard to judge colors with it given how bright it is. I tried to adjust via the utility BlackMagic gives you, but it doesn't have a Setup, black or white levels. I've been unable to get any questions answered from them about getting a "lookup table" for the Dell, either. The picture using this method does not quite fill the screen. That's fine, and the black letterbox on the top and bottom is not that distracting. However, when using my setup and playing Canon's H1-shot footage, there is a flicker that is often happening in this letterbox. Again, it's sleight, but there. Finally, one other annoyance with this method is that when SD footage plays back on the 2405, it won't scale up. It is pixel for pixel, so it plays in a small box in the center of the screen. Not all of these are 2405 problems only. Some are related to the whole system. But either way, I may soon switch to a dedicated HD monitor rather than this hacked setup. Afterall, the 2405 is really made to be a computer monitor... Hope this helps. Kevin