7" LCD Monitors at DVinfo.net

Robert Double · November 22nd, 2005, 06:07 PM

Hi,

I am looking at getting myself a 7" LCD monitor to be mounted on the camera. I am looking at either a

Marshall R-R70P-SD - http://www.lcdracks.com/monitors/vr70p-sd.html

or

Datavideo TLM-70 http://www.datavideo.us/products/tlm_70_main_page.htm

Does anyone use these monitors and have any opinions which one is better?

The Marshall has the edge I believe because it is higher in resolution, and thus when I go HD eventually I can use it. Question is: What does HD look like through S-Video?

However I do wonder what the actual displays are like ie. are they good in sunlight, reflective etc...

Any opinions?

Thanks

Robert

Boyd Ostroff · November 22nd, 2005, 06:37 PM

AFAIK s-video doesn't support HD. If you plug a monitor into a Z1's s-video port you'll be viewing SD video which has been downconverted by the camera.

Marcus Marchesseault · November 23rd, 2005, 03:41 AM

I wouldn't even think of the datavideo due to it's low resolution. The marshall is only 800x480, so HD isn't an option with it either. Regardless, that is the best resolution available in a 7" LCD. Knowing that, the Marshall has lots of nice features.

BTW, 1.2 megapixels is a TOTAL LIE. They are counting the R, G, and B dots seperately and even that doesn't quite equal 1.2Mega. Lame. All of the LCD manufacturers do it. Pixels are individual complete RGB dots. It has 384,000 pixels.

If this link works: http://www.lcdracks.com/monitors/vr70p-dp.html

This model is $500 cheaper and may have everything you need. HD is just not a reality on any of these small monitors as they just don't have the physical resolution, so you may be able to save some cash and still get what you need.

Robert Double · November 23rd, 2005, 03:55 AM

The cheaper vr70p-dp was my first choice actually but at the moment its out of stock and my local supplier said they would sell me the SDI version for the same price - so bit of a bargain.

Take your point re: HD and resolution thats what I thought. I have a feeling over the next couple of years with the advent of HD these little TFT's will develop rapidly higher resolutions and become cheaper. I noticed Marshall are already advertising the next wave a 8.4" w/ 1024x768 due for release in december.

They are just soooooo expensive at the moment, the marshall is $1500AUD!!!!! I did have a lilliput 629 800x480 and even though resolution was good the display was washed out and didn't hold up in daylight. But it was only $290AUD!! However the lilliput had a terrible accident so now in the market for a new LCD, and well I wouldnt buy the lilliput again not after seeing the Marshall.

I wish there was more choice.

Jaser Stockert · January 5th, 2006, 02:03 AM

robert, did the lilliput display 4:3 correctly? what are the pros/cons of this lcd? thanks...

Brian Duke · January 5th, 2006, 02:12 AM

I have the http://www.lcdracks.com/monitors/vr70phda.html

It does HD. I got it for $1250 new. =)

Alex Horvath · January 5th, 2006, 04:17 AM

We did a side by side test with 7" V-R70P-HDA, a 7" YUV Tamuz monitor and the datavideo.
It´s not only th resolution which makes the marshall a clear winner, it´s the dynamicrange on dark areas, much less dancing noise on flat areas, very small afterimage effect and noticeable better colours.
The price differences are not mainly because of pixelcount, it´s the electronic for scaling and marshall does a good job.
But generally for critical monitoring, in comparison with a Field CRT monitor, none of this LCDs comes close to a CRT, and that´s the reason why we´re waiting for the next LCD developement step

alex

November 22nd, 2005, 06:07 PM	#1
Robert Double Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 74	7" LCD Monitors Hi, I am looking at getting myself a 7" LCD monitor to be mounted on the camera. I am looking at either a Marshall R-R70P-SD - http://www.lcdracks.com/monitors/vr70p-sd.html or Datavideo TLM-70 http://www.datavideo.us/products/tlm_70_main_page.htm Does anyone use these monitors and have any opinions which one is better? The Marshall has the edge I believe because it is higher in resolution, and thus when I go HD eventually I can use it. Question is: What does HD look like through S-Video? However I do wonder what the actual displays are like ie. are they good in sunlight, reflective etc... Any opinions? Thanks Robert

November 22nd, 2005, 06:37 PM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,801	AFAIK s-video doesn't support HD. If you plug a monitor into a Z1's s-video port you'll be viewing SD video which has been downconverted by the camera.

November 23rd, 2005, 03:41 AM	#3
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	I wouldn't even think of the datavideo due to it's low resolution. The marshall is only 800x480, so HD isn't an option with it either. Regardless, that is the best resolution available in a 7" LCD. Knowing that, the Marshall has lots of nice features. BTW, 1.2 megapixels is a TOTAL LIE. They are counting the R, G, and B dots seperately and even that doesn't quite equal 1.2Mega. Lame. All of the LCD manufacturers do it. Pixels are individual complete RGB dots. It has 384,000 pixels. If this link works: http://www.lcdracks.com/monitors/vr70p-dp.html This model is $500 cheaper and may have everything you need. HD is just not a reality on any of these small monitors as they just don't have the physical resolution, so you may be able to save some cash and still get what you need.

November 23rd, 2005, 03:55 AM	#4
Robert Double Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 74	The cheaper vr70p-dp was my first choice actually but at the moment its out of stock and my local supplier said they would sell me the SDI version for the same price - so bit of a bargain. Take your point re: HD and resolution thats what I thought. I have a feeling over the next couple of years with the advent of HD these little TFT's will develop rapidly higher resolutions and become cheaper. I noticed Marshall are already advertising the next wave a 8.4" w/ 1024x768 due for release in december. They are just soooooo expensive at the moment, the marshall is $1500AUD!!!!! I did have a lilliput 629 800x480 and even though resolution was good the display was washed out and didn't hold up in daylight. But it was only $290AUD!! However the lilliput had a terrible accident so now in the market for a new LCD, and well I wouldnt buy the lilliput again not after seeing the Marshall. I wish there was more choice.

January 5th, 2006, 02:03 AM	#5
Jaser Stockert Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 147	robert, did the lilliput display 4:3 correctly? what are the pros/cons of this lcd? thanks...

January 5th, 2006, 02:12 AM	#6
Brian Duke Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 899	I have the http://www.lcdracks.com/monitors/vr70phda.html It does HD. I got it for $1250 new. =)

January 5th, 2006, 04:17 AM	#7
Alex Horvath Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Innsbruck,Austria Posts: 45	We did a side by side test with 7" V-R70P-HDA, a 7" YUV Tamuz monitor and the datavideo. It´s not only th resolution which makes the marshall a clear winner, it´s the dynamicrange on dark areas, much less dancing noise on flat areas, very small afterimage effect and noticeable better colours. The price differences are not mainly because of pixelcount, it´s the electronic for scaling and marshall does a good job. But generally for critical monitoring, in comparison with a Field CRT monitor, none of this LCDs comes close to a CRT, and that´s the reason why we´re waiting for the next LCD developement step alex